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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 March 2023

Stephen Kerr

Kaukab Stewart will talk about the financial implications of the definition, which are significant.

I will move on to my last question. In the evidence on the bill, we have heard a number of memorable phrases that have stuck with me. One was about the salad that was much mentioned earlier. Another was when someone said, “You can’t legislate for a relationship.” We know from the evidence that we have received, particularly from the individuals who are the most impacted—the young people and their parents and carers—that relationships are the critical element in all this. For example, you mentioned in your opening statement the individual from Falkirk, who has been much mentioned and whose job is based around supporting families and individuals with the transition journey right through to the age of 25, as you mentioned. That single point of contact therefore becomes a critical relationship in the management of what you described as a “project”.

When it comes to the resources that will flow with the bill, should every local authority have someone like the person we heard about in Falkirk? What are the implications of that for the direction of resources, which are already quite scarce?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

As it stands, however, there is nothing in it that you think would absolutely make a good piece of legislation that would be helpful to the young people concerned or to the Government in focusing its efforts and working with COSLA to deliver a better experience.

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

Scott Richardson-Read, your contribution was interesting, especially when you referred to the legislation salad. You also talked about the plan. Am I picking up that you do not think that that can be legislated for? Is it just that you want the bill to be more prescriptive? In the same vein, you talked about what I think is the question of the morning: can you legislate a relationship? Of course, you cannot. What are your thoughts?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

That is a realistic approach to what legislation can and cannot do. Should the matter be legislated on?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

Is there nothing substantive on the agreement that you reached? Was it simply verbally agreed? You refer to the Official Report of the proceedings of Parliament. I get that and I agree with you that your expectations were well described but, when you make an agreement with COSLA, surely it has to be set out in specific detail what the expectation is and what the accountability is for it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

Good morning, ministers. From the memorandum that you lodged, it is clear that you support the intent of the bill. I think that that is a pretty universal feeling. We have heard lots of evidence that there is a breakdown in the process through which these young people go, and about how they are often very badly let down.

In relation to the bill, you have raised one concern about the designation of a minister. Do you have other concerns about the provisions in the bill in relation to the fundamental question that we all have to answer, which is whether such an additional piece of legislation will improve the prospects of young people as they transition from one stage of their lives to another? Will they have a better experience? What is your assessment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

That money is part of the Barnett consequentials—the adjustments—that come at the financial year end. Is that where it comes from?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

So, I am correct in saying that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

And the money for next year?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Stephen Kerr

So, that money was already there.