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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 December 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

That is a fair point. I understand that the majority of boards allow siblings to stay on site with their parents. I recognise what you are describing. I cannot imagine what it would be like to be in that situation. I reflect on the nursing staff, the clinicians and the people that work for the YPFF who I have met and recognise how caring they are. Where possible, they will want to support families in these difficult, traumatic circumstances.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

I think that the committee heard evidence from Stephen Wardle last week about the change in the model in England and the improvements in outcomes there.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

Generally, I think that our health service can only benefit from support from the third sector. The operational improvement plan, the population health plan, and the strategic review framework all point to a need for much more holistic healthcare. That includes both the primary care that we get in our general practitioner surgeries and from opticians and pharmacists and so on, and the acute care in our hospitals, as well as a wraparound, if I can describe it like that, from the third sector, providing a different type of support that it is very good at.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

Convener, I could not agree more with that final comment. I think that communication is incredibly important. The task and finish group is being clear about communicating within their sphere of influence, but I absolutely take that on board and think that it is a very fair point well made.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

You make the point.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

I have been very clear that ScotSTAR will transfer the babies. The decision about whether the mother can travel with the baby depends on the health of the mother. My understanding of the layout of a ScotSTAR ambulance is that the mother would have to sit for the duration of the journey, which might not be appropriate for her own health, so separate transportation decisions as to the safest and the right way for a mother to be transferred would be needed. It may be by ambulance, but it may also be by private car.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

ScotSTAR provides a separate ambulance; it is not a general ambulance. ScotSTAR ambulances are key ambulances designed specifically for neonatal baby transfer.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

You are absolutely right that ScotSTAR is key to ensuring the right support. As I highlighted earlier, ScotSTAR has been operating for 20 years. It is a well-recognised model of providing transfer between hospitals for the smallest and sickest babies. As I said earlier, ScotSTAR and the Scottish Ambulance Service, which operates ScotSTAR, have been involved in the best start work right from the start, and that is very important.

Any modelling that is required will be done. As Kirstie Campbell noted, the work is happening on a financial basis. One of the directors of finance, who is part of the task and finish group, is looking at the work from a once-for-Scotland approach. If the capacity of ScotSTAR needs to increase, that will certainly be built into our approach to ensure that babies are transported in the safest, most careful way, to ensure the best outcomes for them.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

Thank you for that question. I think that you heard some evidence from Stephen Wardle about that last week.

From the work that we did with Crosshouse in Ayrshire and Arran sending patients to Glasgow and the Victoria in Fife sending patients to Lothian, it was clear that the best outcomes are if the mother can travel while the baby is in utero. That should be picked up in the visits that mothers-to-be have with their maternity staff. They will be put on one of the different pathways for expectant mothers and that would be taken into account. There will be certain areas that will require the maternity staff to ensure that they recognise whether a mother is likely to give birth early.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jenni Minto

I am sorry if I have given you that impression; that was not the intention.

All the capacity work is being done now, and it is important that it is done. We have been very clear that it needs to be done carefully. I am aware that some of the evidence that you heard last week was that the modelling had not been done. That is exactly the work that we have asked the task and finish group to do, to ensure that we have the right services to provide the right care for the babies.

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