Under item 3, we will hear evidence from Dr Kevin Woods, Alex Smith and John Connaghan. I ask Dr Woods to make a brief introductory statement.
I welcome the Auditor General's report and his assessment of the progress that NHS Scotland has made against the top priority targets for 2006-07. The report reflects positively on staff in the health service who must take the credit for this record of progress and improvement.
Thank you very much. We start with questions from Jim Hume.
You have probably covered the two points that I wanted to ask about, Dr Woods. The NHS has previously not published annual reports on finances or performance. Will you clarify that reports will be published on not just NHS performance, but finances? Will you also clarify that the new HEAT targets will match the Government's targets, including those on cancer, smoking and teenage pregnancies?
Yes, I am happy to do so. You have described our ambition—that is exactly what we want to do.
Ambition?
Our intent—that is what we are going to do.
The word ambition implies something slightly different.
If ambition is the wrong word to describe a determination to do something, forgive me. We are going to do it.
We are all ambitious, but we do not always achieve our ambitions. Thank you.
This is a much more constructive issue than the one we were talking about previously. What are you doing to ensure that the NHS gets best value? How do you compare the NHS in Scotland with that south of the border and with continental European countries?
We look closely at how health care policies are developing throughout the world; we do not limit ourselves to a neighbouring country. We are interested in developments in other parts of the United Kingdom, Europe and beyond. It is fair to say that we take cognisance of what is going on.
The NHS embraces best value and seeks continuous improvement—we touched on that earlier today—but it is sometimes quite challenging. Audit Scotland has examined best value in the NHS and the committee will have seen the report, which was quite encouraging. In the NHS, it is our efficiency and value for money that demonstrate best value, but it was important to say that we do business in the context of continuous improvement. The NHS has achieved efficiency and we continue to report well on that—the report before us confirms that. John Connaghan will want to extend that into benchmarking the other work that we do.
I will say a word or two about the three key components of best value, continuous improvement and redesign.
The briefing that we had from NHS Lothian mentioned that it has worked with GE Healthcare Ltd on the kaizen process—is that right?
Yes—the kaizen blitz.
That is right. The process involved team working. We were told that, by bringing together everyone in the team from the porter right up to the consultant—I should not say "right up"; I mean "including"—they were able to increase productivity substantially. What are you doing to develop that work in other areas of activity and other parts of Scotland?
The programme that you mention is an interesting one. We have similar programmes in most other health boards. We have spent quite a lot of time trying to build capacity within NHS boards for them to undertake similar work. There are different approaches, and that is just one example. Nonetheless, we are interested in it. We had some presentations about such examples to disseminate that learning to all NHS chairs. In late June, we will hold our annual NHS conference, which is an opportunity for people to talk about such improvement experiences and share them.
Sorry—what is the figure for the savings that you achieved for 2006-07?
It is £358 million. I think that the figure is stated at the back of the Auditor General's report
Yes. And you expect to surpass that in the current year.
I do not know whether Mr Smith can tell us that.
The target for the three years to the conclusion of 2007-08 is £531 million. That will be exceeded by as much as £80 million. However, that is a projection at the moment. The figures have not been published.
But the target will be exceeded.
We have exceeded it already and we believe that we will exceed it further.
How does your work fit into the new national performance framework for the Government as a whole?
We will give you a more detailed note on that, because it is difficult to explain, but as I tried to suggest, we have tried to ensure that there is effective alignment between the specific targets that we have in the NHS and the 45 indicators and 15 national outcomes, so that we can be clear about what contribution the health service will make alongside the contribution of other parts of the public sector.
In paragraph 59 of his report, the Auditor General made the case that, despite a drive for service redesign to shift the balance of care, there has been no change in the balance of funding between acute, community and primary care services during the past three years. Dr Woods, are you concerned by that finding? What steps is the Government taking to try to ensure that boards shift funding to community and primary care services?
I will make a number of points. First, the current means of measuring progress on the objective are not adequate. We need to do more on that. That is why we are developing a new approach to measuring performance and achievement against the policy. Forgive me if this is a bit detailed. We have been impressed by work in NHS Highland on what its board calls the "cost cube", which is a way of capturing financial spending and performance activity by programmes of spend. It is interesting that in his report the Auditor General gave an example of the use of programme budgeting in a primary care trust in England. The cost cube model takes that approach but goes beyond it and disaggregates the spend by community health partnership. It creates a method whereby we can analyse spend by programme and place and we can generate the detailed information that is needed if we are to discuss how services might be changed and what such change would mean for resource and activity shift.
Can I ask a supplementary? Do you still have concerns about the amount that the NHS is having to spend on bedblocking?
We refer to delayed discharges, of course. Traditionally, we have spent about £30 million per annum on delayed discharges. The very good news is that the data that were published at the end of January recorded the lowest ever number of people whose discharge had been delayed for more than six weeks. Our target is to reduce that figure to zero by the end of this month. There is a period in which the data must catch up with what is happening on the ground. We are encouraged by the progress that we have made in that regard. For the moment, we are content with the resource that has been allocated to achieve that.
How is the NHS using data on the causes of mortality in deprived communities to address health inequalities?
The adverse consequences of deprivation for the health of people in Scotland form one of our key concerns. The data that are presented in the overview report give a high-level picture, which shows that although health in Scotland is improving at a good rate, there are still some important inequalities that we need to address.
Paragraph 13 of the report says:
The alcohol problem is a serious issue for Scotland. The rising trend in consumption and the adverse health consequences of that have been well documented. I believe that the chief medical officer has spoken about that in various places at various times, and the point is also made in exhibit 5 in the Auditor General's report.
We hope that the £85 million will go some way to reducing the levels of chronic liver disease shown in the statistics in exhibit 5. When we consider the number of deprived communities in Scotland, alcohol is a major issue that needs to be addressed.
I agree, and the policies that we are pursuing beyond alcohol to tackle the adverse consequences of deprivation on health will also make a contribution. We often talk about a complex of issues—not just alcohol but diet, exercise and smoking. We have a range of initiatives that are increasingly designed to provide support to deprived populations.
There was a marked rise in drug-related deaths between 2005 and 2006. Can you shed any light on why that might have been the case?
I am not sure that I can point to a single reason. If it would help, I will be happy to investigate whether we could submit a more detailed note on the issue.
I will bring us back to mortality and deprivation and some of the things that you have outlined should be done and, indeed, have been done. Should more be spent on health in deprived areas per head of the population?
That is our policy. The resource allocation framework that we use for NHS boards includes a specific adjustment to distribution of resources to take account of that. Beyond that, in many of the policies that we deploy in relation to smoking, alcohol, drugs and so on, we recognise that there are additional needs in deprived areas. The short answer is yes.
The latest resource allocation has just been made. Was it based on spending more per head of population in areas of deprivation?
The allocation for 2008-09 is based on the Arbuthnott formula, which includes a specific adjustment for what is known as morbidity and life circumstances, so the answer is yes. Deprivation is one important factor in the formula—there are others.
Was an adjustment recently made to resources that reflected population growth rather than deprivation and mortality?
Mr Smith might want to comment on that. I do not know whether you are talking about the review of the resource allocation formula, which was carried out by the NHS Scotland resource allocation committee, or NRAC. That committee was chaired by Dr Karen Facey and ministers have just accepted its recommendations. The formula operates by combining a number of adjustments that are based on population. The starting point is population, and adjustments are made to take account of morbidity, life circumstances and excess costs. In the past, Lord Foulkes has asked me about allocations to rural health boards and the extent to which we take account of remoteness and so on. We put all those factors into the formula and the result is the allocations that are made. I hope that that answers the question.
Okay. I can pursue that elsewhere.
I have some questions on cost pressures and provision for negligence pay-outs within the service. I understand that the NHS set aside £208 million for clinical negligence pay-outs in 2006-07, but the actual amount that was paid out in that year was £23 million. In itself, that sum is pretty high compared with the 10-year average, but it seems that a huge contingency is set aside that is not used or required. How does that pass the test of best value? Could some of that money be reinvested in the service?
I ask Mr Smith to comment on that.
Ideally that would be the case, but under the accounting regulations, we have to make provision where we believe that sufficient risk has been identified and can be quantified. That is what we have done. The position is quite volatile and the provisions and the actual settlements vary. Willie Coffey is right to ask why we sit on such provision when, in a better situation, the money would be deployed for direct patient care. However, while significant risk exists, it is required that we make proper provision for it.
Audit Scotland highlighted the issue in a report in 2000 and I understand that an indemnity scheme was devised at that time. I think that it is called the clinical negligence and other risks scheme, or CNORIS. However, it seems to me that nothing has changed in the assessment of risk, and that huge amounts of money that could be used to deliver better services are not being used. Notwithstanding what you said, how on earth can we be in a position in which up to £180 million is set aside this year and not being used? The pay-out has never peaked beyond £23 million, but nearly £200 million has been set aside. I cannot understand how that represents prudent financial planning.
I have tried to respond to your challenge, and I do not disagree with your position. In an ideal world we would not be in that situation, but it is difficult for us not to make that assessment of risk. We would be criticised if we allowed ourselves to reach settlements that exceeded provision that we had made—that can happen—and we would be in a much more difficult place.
What happens to the money at year-end?
It is within the provision—it is income expenditure, on which we produce our accounts, in resource accounting terms. That is how we are judged. Cash does not actually leave—
No, but does the notional allocation, or whatever you call it, go back to the central budget?
That provision is there, so it rests and the outturn remains the same.
I make two additional points. First, the data in the Auditor General's report indicated that there is some volatility annually in the amount that we pay out, which is to do with the nature of the cases. I think that there was an increase in 2000.
How sustainable are the financial positions of boards that rely on non-recurrent income, given that boards are no longer allowed to use capital funding to cover gaps?
As I said in my introductory remarks, we are pleased by the progress that has been made in reducing reliance on non-recurring provision. In past years, boards were sometimes able to make capital-to-revenue transfers, to secure their in-year position. We have been trying to reduce such activity. Alex Smith will correct me if I am wrong, but I think that for 2007-08 our forecast position on the use of non-recurring resources is about 0.2 per cent. That means that we are getting close to a situation in which many boards are, in effect, in recurring balance, which is an important position to reach. We want boards' financial plans to contain evidence that convinces us that they can sustain that position and meet their efficiency targets. As the committee knows, one board in particular presents issues in respect of achieving that. Mr Smith might want to elaborate on what I have said.
I do not have much to add. We are in a much better position than we have been in previously. That has not happened without considerable effort being made to ensure that we find other ways of sustaining services, through service improvement, change and so on, instead of relying on opportunistic gains. Of course, such opportunistic gains will no longer be made, because profits on sale of assets will no longer be available to use in that way. There will always be sources of non-recurring income, through refunds for example, but such income will be much less in the future, so our ability to use it will diminish. The good news, which is backed up by evidence, is that we no longer rely significantly on such income. That is how we intend to continue.
How does Western Isles NHS Board fit into the picture?
That is the board to which I just referred. If you can bear the repetition, I will say that our objectives are to achieve in-year balance, to secure a recurring position as quickly as we can, and to address the accumulated deficit. If we were convinced that the board had a set of coherent plans, we would think about the approach to the accumulated deficit, but our approach will probably be based on brokerage.
That concludes this part of the meeting. I thank Dr Woods for his evidence on two lengthy agenda items. Your contribution and that of your colleague have helped us.
Meeting suspended.
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