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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 29 September 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Scotland’s Prisons

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

Thank you. Pauline McNeill has a question.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scotland’s Prisons

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

Sorry, Stephen, but I am conscious that another couple of members have indicated that they want to come in.

11:00

Criminal Justice Committee

Scotland’s Prisons

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

Grand. In that case, we will go straight to questions. I ask members to indicate to me in the usual way when they want to come in. I propose that we do not take a formal one-person-one-answer approach. Let us have a discussion to interrogate the issues. There is a lot of common ground among members on the issues that we want to dig into, so I am keen to hear from you.

David Linden, do you want to lead off?

Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

Colleagues, it is good to see you all. It is great to have you all here on a warm, sunny day in Edinburgh. Happy hay fever season to all who celebrate it. I apologise if I end up snuffling while chairing the meeting.

This morning, we will hear a fascinating set of evidence from our friends in the prison community.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 4 in private. Do members agree to take the item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scotland’s Prisons

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

That was a very good line of inquiry. The committee could send a letter to the cabinet secretary to dig into the numbers. Let us see what the data says. It would be useful to do that, so we will come back to that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scotland’s Prisons

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

Thank you. That was really helpful, certainly for my part. The election was five weeks ago and this is our first evidence session. You are here before us because we are looking for delivery. I am reticent about the need for more legislation; I think that we need to focus on delivery and on what is holding up things that should improve much more than they are doing.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

I strongly agree with that. It is not an interest that I need to declare at this point, but I was honorary vice-president of the Scottish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. There will be significant implications for the Dogs Trust and the Scottish SPCA from the lack of insurance, because that will have implications for the owners and there will be knock-ons from that.

It is a very clear example of market failure, in that no other insurance company is willing to provide the insurance that is necessary. Therefore, the legislative instrument is necessary, and the Scottish Government has undertaken, in its letter to the Presiding Officer, to make people aware of the reality of the situation—as has the Dogs Trust, which has been the only insurance provider. There are significant implications for the owners, and we are fully apprised of that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scotland’s Prisons

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

Would you like to respond to that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scotland’s Prisons

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

I welcome our guests from His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Prisons for Scotland. We have Sara Snell, who is His Majesty’s chief inspector of prisons, and Jacqueline Clinton, who is the thematic lead inspector. It is great to have you both with us. The committee is really looking forward to your evidence. We have an hour for a discussion.

I believe that you want to make a statement, and then we will move on to questions and a discussion. It is lovely to have you with us.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scotland’s Prisons

Meeting date: 24 June 2026

Alyn Smith

That has been really helpful. In the next round of questions—I will allow us to go a wee bit over our time if our guests are okay to stay for five or 10 minutes longer—I would like us to focus on the outcomes that we want from this meeting. What would you like the committee to take forward? What issues would you like to see us get into? I have put on my list that we should write a letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Justice on the remand population outcomes and about what happens at the 120 day and 180 day points. I ask colleagues to focus their questions on concrete things that we should take forward.