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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
Grand. In that case, we will go straight to questions. I ask members to indicate to me in the usual way when they want to come in. I propose that we do not take a formal one-person-one-answer approach. Let us have a discussion to interrogate the issues. There is a lot of common ground among members on the issues that we want to dig into, so I am keen to hear from you.
David Linden, do you want to lead off?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
That was a very good line of inquiry. The committee could send a letter to the cabinet secretary to dig into the numbers. Let us see what the data says. It would be useful to do that, so we will come back to that.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
Sorry, Stephen, but I am conscious that another couple of members have indicated that they want to come in.
11:00
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
Thank you. Pauline McNeill has a question.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
I do not doubt that the conversation could go on for hours, but I congratulate members on some really rich questioning, and I thank them for sticking to our time as well. I have scribbled down a number of action points.
I warmly thank our guests for coming and giving us evidence today. This is the start of a conversation rather than the end of one, and there is unanimity across the committee that, if something is not working, we are game for getting into it. You have given us a number of significant points to take forward and I warmly thank you for your attendance.
I will suspend the meeting to allow our guests to leave.
11:12
Meeting suspended.
11:16
On resuming—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
That is a sensible point, albeit beyond the scope of the instrument: there is a wider policy implication about the reality that, if insurance is not available for the harm that these dogs might do, we need to revisit the conversation about whether they should be in society at all. That is a tricky conversation and is not for us today, but we should take good note.
As there are no other comments on the SSI, with those points taken, I undertake that we will keep an eye on it with our minister. We will hear from ministers over the recess and later on, but the wider issue is one that we will come back to. That being the case, I propose that we take no further action on the instrument. Are we agreed?
Members indicated agreement.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
I thank Lucy Miller for keeping me right. That concludes the public session of the committee, so we will move into private session to consider the evidence that we have heard and our future work plan.
11:24
Meeting continued in private until 11:57.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
Thank you. That was really helpful, certainly for my part. The election was five weeks ago and this is our first evidence session. You are here before us because we are looking for delivery. I am reticent about the need for more legislation; I think that we need to focus on delivery and on what is holding up things that should improve much more than they are doing.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
I strongly agree with that. It is not an interest that I need to declare at this point, but I was honorary vice-president of the Scottish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. There will be significant implications for the Dogs Trust and the Scottish SPCA from the lack of insurance, because that will have implications for the owners and there will be knock-ons from that.
It is a very clear example of market failure, in that no other insurance company is willing to provide the insurance that is necessary. Therefore, the legislative instrument is necessary, and the Scottish Government has undertaken, in its letter to the Presiding Officer, to make people aware of the reality of the situation—as has the Dogs Trust, which has been the only insurance provider. There are significant implications for the owners, and we are fully apprised of that.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 June 2026
Alyn Smith
That concludes the public part of our meeting today. [Interruption.] I have to be a wee bit more robotic: I propose that the committee does not make any recommendations in relation to the negative instrument. Are we agreed?
Members indicated agreement.