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Chamber and committees

Education Committee, 14 Sep 2005

Meeting date: Wednesday, September 14, 2005


Contents


Subordinate Legislation


Teachers' Superannuation (Scotland) Regulations 2005 (SSI 2005/393)

The Convener:

Agenda item 2 is subordinate legislation. The documentation for the Teachers' Superannuation (Scotland) Regulations 2005 (SSI 2005/393) is bulky, although I do not know whether the debate will be particularly long. The documentation is fairly lengthy, but the substantive document consolidates existing regulations. There are only a few relatively minor policy amendments.

I invite Christine Marr from the Scottish Public Pensions Agency to join us. She will answer members' questions for clarification of the regulations before we decide whether to accept them.

I have three brief questions. First, do the regulations allow for a winding-down period for teachers who wish to take early retirement?

Christine Marr (Scottish Public Pensions Agency):

Yes. The provision is not new—it was introduced in 2002. There are various eligibility conditions; a teacher must be 56 and can wind down for four years prior to retirement. They must put in at least half the work of a full-time teacher, although they can work more and will receive a full year's service.

Is there an option for teachers to increase their pension contributions in order to buy earlier retirement?

Christine Marr:

Teachers do not have an automatic right to early retirement before 60. The matter is at the discretion of their employer, but there is a provision whereby late entrants who do not have the maximum service can buy added years.

Finally, do the regulations allow for teachers who leave the teaching profession to transfer their pension rights to another scheme?

Christine Marr:

Yes. Most schemes would ask them to do so within a year. If teachers go to new employment, they must usually make a decision within a year.

Fiona Hyslop:

I have specific questions and a general question. I am pleased that the regulations introduce paternity and adoption leave provisions and provisions relating to enhanced maternity leave. An adoption bill is to be introduced: I take it that the regulations would be compatible with its provisions on adoption leave, for example.

Christine Marr:

I imagine so, because it is Department of Trade and Industry legislation.

Fiona Hyslop:

I understand that the regulations relate to a transfer of powers to Scottish ministers that was made some time ago. There is great controversy at the moment about teachers and other public servants having to work until the age of 65. Were a decision on that to be made at Westminster, what effect would that have on these regulations? Would they have to be amended to accommodate policy decisions that were made in Westminster?

Christine Marr:

At the moment, the public services forum is debating what should be done about retirement at the age of 65, in respect of whether that should be just for new entrants or whether it should be introduced in 2018. The Westminster Government has control over policy; only the regulatory work is devolved.

The regulations have to be approved by the Treasury. Therefore, Scottish ministers could not do anything totally different. If Westminster decides that retirement age will be 65 from 2018, that is what will happen. We are party to the discussions that are being held at the moment.

That is my point. Will any changes be made in Westminster or are there technical bits of the regulations that we will have to change in Scotland?

Christine Marr:

Yes.

If Westminster raised the retirement age to 65, would we have to be re-presented with the regulations?

Christine Marr:

There would be an amendment to them.

What form of parliamentary procedure would that involve?

Christine Marr:

It would be an amending Scottish statutory instrument and it would be subject to consultation with teachers and other interested parties.

It would come before the committee.

Christine Marr:

Yes.

Thank you.

The Convener:

Thank you for answering our questions this morning. You have been very helpful.

The Subordinate Legislation Committee has no comments on the regulations and no motions to annul them have been lodged. Therefore, I ask the committee to confirm that it has nothing to report on the regulations.

Members indicated agreement.