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Chamber and committees

Public Petitions Committee, 27 Sep 2006

Meeting date: Wednesday, September 27, 2006


Contents


Current Petitions


Victims of Crime (Financial Reparation) (PE914)

The Convener:

The first current petition is PE914, from Peter Fallon, calling on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Executive to amend criminal justice legislation to require criminals to make financial reparation to the victims of their crime. At its meeting on 22 February, the committee agreed to write to the Lord Advocate and to the Scottish Executive. Responses have now been received and circulated. Do members have any comments?

Helen Eadie:

Given that the matter is now being examined by the Justice 1 Committee, perhaps it would be appropriate to accept that committee's view that it would be happy to consider the petition as part of its further consideration of the Criminal Proceedings etc (Reform) (Scotland) Bill. Perhaps the Justice 1 Committee will consider amending the bill as suggested in the petition.

Are members happy to refer the petition to the Justice 1 Committee?

Members indicated agreement.


Criminal Law (Procedures) (PE935)

The Convener:

Our next petition, PE935, is from Ian Longworth and calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Executive to amend criminal procedures to ensure that, when a procurator fiscal does not consider it to be in the public interest to pursue criminal proceedings, a full written explanation is provided to the alleged victim of the crime. At its meeting on 8 March, the committee agreed to write to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, the victim information and advice service, Victim Support Scotland and the Scottish Executive. Responses have now been received and circulated. Do members have any views on how to proceed with the petition?

There are no comments from members. Petition PE935 struck me as so similar to PE914 that I thought for a moment that I was rereading the same papers. I think that we can also send PE935 to the Justice 1 Committee, as it falls into the same category. Are members happy to do that?

Members indicated agreement.


Hospital Patients (Spiritual Care) (PE923)

The Convener:

Our next petition is PE923 is from Ben Conway and calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Executive to promote pastoral and spiritual care in hospitals, to ensure that physical, psychological, social and spiritual needs are properly addressed. At its meeting on 30 January, the committee agreed to write to the Scottish Inter Faith Council, Professor John Swinton of the University of Aberdeen, the Rev Chris Levinson of NHS Scotland, the Scotland Patients Association and the Scottish Executive.

Helen Eadie:

Ben Conway is a constituent of mine. He has campaigned long and hard on this issue and it is very nice to see him in the public gallery today. Shortly, the committee will perhaps decide that it wants to write to seek the views of the petitioner on the responses that we have received. That might seem strange, given that he is here today, but we have to follow our procedures. The convener might wish to explain why we have to do it that way rather than simply asking him.

I am pleased with the response from the health care chaplaincy development officer in the national health service in Scotland. He agrees entirely with Ben Conway's point and he has highlighted the solution, which is that the Data Protection Act 1998 has to be amended so that hospital chaplains become part of the health care team. I have written to my Westminster colleague Gordon Brown asking whether that can be done; it may be that the committee could write as well. It is Ben Conway's view, and mine, that in this case the act has been a sledgehammer to crack the nut of malpractice. In seeking to avert such malpractice, we have run into unintended consequences.

I was also pleased with Professor Swinton's response, which gives his backing. He details research that has shown how vital it is to attend to the spiritual needs of people who are ill.

The Scottish Inter Faith Council has declined to comment, but it says that the issue has been brought to the attention of its members.

However, I am disappointed that it was not possible for the Minister for Health and Community Care to do more than say that it all comes down to the Data Protection Act 1998. I would welcome it if the Scottish Executive could make representations to Her Majesty's Government to secure the amendment to the act that we so badly need. If hospital chaplains were regarded as part of the health care team, they would be given access to details about the faith of the patients in hospitals.

After we have heard the petitioner's views, I hope that we will get round to making recommendations. By that time, I hope that we will have had a response from my colleague Gordon Brown. I know that he is very supportive of all the people in Kelty who have raised this issue.

It is a tribute to Ben Conway that he has been so determined and has stuck doggedly to his campaign for about three years now. I congratulate him on all his hard work.

We should write to Ben Conway officially to get his views. All the points that Helen Eadie has raised can be considered when we receive his response.


National Bird (PE783)

The Convener:

Our next petition is PE783, which is from James Reynolds on behalf of The Scotsman. It calls on the Scottish Parliament to support the establishment of the golden eagle as the national bird of Scotland. At its meeting on 18 January, the committee agreed to invite the views of the petitioner on the responses that we received. His response has been circulated to members.

When the Public Petitions Committee was in Germany last week at the Bundestag, it struck me how much importance Germany places on having a national bird. It had never occurred to me how important such symbolism could be. Wherever we went, the importance of that type of thing was clear to us. It sounds bizarre and is not something that I had paid particular attention to, but it strikes me that other people take the issue of having a national bird much more seriously than we do.

Helen Eadie:

When the petition first came to the Parliament, I was not persuaded but, having read various newspapers and, like you, heard other people's views, I am coming round to the view that we ought to consider having a national bird. We should refer the petition to the Enterprise and Culture Committee as a serious issue for consideration.

Are members happy to do that?

Members indicated agreement.


Forth Road Bridge (PE943 and PE942)

The Convener:

Our next petitions are PE943 and PE942. Petition PE942, from Bill Cantley, on behalf of the ForthRight Alliance, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Executive to desist from spending taxpayers' money on preparing for the construction of a second Forth road bridge before having at its disposal all the facts regarding the condition of the existing Forth road bridge, on the grounds that any such expenditure would be both environmentally irresponsible and fiscally imprudent. Petition PE943, from Mark Hood, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Executive to consider the need for a new Forth road bridge. The committee agreed previously to link consideration of petitions PE942 and PE943 and to write to the Forth Estuary Transport Authority, Fife Council, the City of Edinburgh Council, Architects and Engineers for Social Responsibility, Scottish Enterprise and the Scottish Executive. Responses have been received and members have seen them.

Helen Eadie:

We should write to the petitioners to ask for their view of the responses that we have received. However, in doing so, would it also be possible for us to invite the Cockburn Association to attend a presentation on the condition of the Forth bridge? Last week, when I attended a presentation at the Fife Chamber of Commerce and Enterprise, I spoke with the bridgemaster and saw what a grave condition the Forth bridge is in. If the Cockburn Association and others saw the state of the bridge, they might be persuaded at least to listen to the arguments. I have always been of the view that we should have a second crossing anyway, but we are now talking about a replacement bridge. The whole of the north of Scotland depends on the bridge—it is a lifeline and part of a trans-European route. It would be devastating and catastrophic for Scotland if we did not do something about the bridge.

We will write to the petitioners and get their views on the responses, before we discuss the issues further.

Could we suggest that the Cockburn Association attend such a presentation? I could arrange that.

You could take that up with the petitioner. I am not sure whether the committee could do that.

Right—that is fine.

If you do so, the petitioner could comment on the presentation when they respond to us.


Forth Road Bridge (Tolls) (PE921)<br />Tolled Bridges (PE925)

The Convener:

Next, we will consider two more connected petitions, PE921 and PE925, which concern tolled bridges. Petition PE921, from the Rev Ross Brown, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Executive not to increase the tolls on the Forth road bridge. Petition PE925, from George Campbell, on behalf of the National Alliance Against Tolls Scotland, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Executive not to extend the tolling regimes on the remaining tolled bridges—the Erskine, Forth and Tay bridges—but instead to take over the bridges and their approaches as part of the national road system and to remove the tolls forthwith.

At the committee's meeting on 19 April, we agreed to pass copies of the petitions to the Minister for Transport and the First Minister and to await the outcome of the review of the impact and cost of retaining or removing tolls from the Tay and Forth bridges. Responses have been received and circulated to members.

We should write to the petitioners with the responses and get feedback from them.

We will have to do that in the context of the decision that has been made to extend tolling on the Forth bridge to 2010 and the decisions that have been made on the Erskine and Tay bridges.

Helen Eadie:

I add the caveat that I have a draft proposal for a member's bill on the abolition of the tolls on the Forth bridge. The rumour or the information on the street is that tolls will be removed from the Tay bridge. If so, it would be a total inequity to continue to have tolls on the Forth bridge, as it would then be the only tolled bridge in Scotland. We should get the petitioners' views on the responses.

Okay. I am happy to do that, if members agree.

Members indicated agreement.


Solvent Abuse (PE580)

The Convener:

The next petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to recognise the serious problems with solvent abuse in Scotland and to introduce preventive safety measures to help combat it. At its meeting on 30 January, the committee agreed to write to the Scottish Executive and a response has now been received and circulated to members. Do members have any suggestions on how to deal with the petition?

Shall we get the view of the petitioner again?

Okay. We will write to the petitioner and await his response. We can then consider the petition again. Is that agreed?

Members indicated agreement.


Coastal and River Erosion<br />(National Strategy) (PE878)

The Convener:

The next petition is from James A Mackie and calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Executive to consider the need for a national strategy to address the impact of coastal and river erosion in Scotland. At its meeting on 22 February, the committee agreed to invite the views of the petitioner on the previous responses received. Those views have now been received. I ask members for suggestions about what, if anything, we can do with the petition in light of the petitioner's response. I do not think that we can do anything with it. We have the views of the petitioner and the Executive. We can only agree that no further action should be taken.

Members indicated agreement.


Local Democracy (PE880)

The Convener:

Our final petition this morning is from Iain D Skene, on behalf of Renfrewshire and Inverclyde association of Burns Clubs, calling on the Scottish Parliament to consider and debate the issue of local authority democratic accountability and in particular the accessibility of local elected representatives. At its meeting on 8 March, the committee agreed to invite the views of the petitioner on the responses received. Do members have any views on the petitioner's response? Is there any more that we can do with the petition?

I do not think there is.

So we will just agree to close the petition.

Members indicated agreement.

That concludes our consideration of petitions and we now move into private session.

Meeting continued in private until 12:14.