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“Review of Cairngorm funicular railway”
Item 2 is consideration of a section 23 report entitled "Review of Cairngorm funicular railway". I ask the Auditor General to give us a briefing.
Good morning. My report on the Cairngorm funicular railway was published on 8 October and looks at the involvement of Highlands and Islands Enterprise—which, if members do not mind, I will call HIE from now on—with the funicular over the 17 years since the start of the project. It looks at the appraisal of the business case, the building of the funicular and HIE's role in trying to secure the benefits from it, including the decision last year to take over the operating company, which is called Cairngorm Mountain Ltd.
It would certainly be useful for any consideration that we might make if we had access to the future business model and your comments on it. What is the likely timescale for that?
To some extent, we are in the hands of HIE and its decision-making timetable. The latest indication is that it will consider its options in December. What happens after that is unclear. I have asked that the auditor continue to review that, which I can guarantee to the committee. I expect the audit for the current financial year of 2009-10 to include an audit review of HIE's business model as and when it becomes available, and I expect it to be mentioned at the conclusion of the audit of 2009-10 at the very latest. We cannot offer a guarantee if the committee wishes to have something sooner than that, because we are in the hands of HIE and its decision-making process, but I can certainly give an undertaking that the matter will be covered in the audit of the current financial year.
Thank you. On page 7, in part 1 of the main report, you say:
It was a policy decision for HIE and the Scottish Office to make. The Scottish Office, the EU and HIE took a policy decision to commit to the investment. It would not be appropriate or possible for us to revisit that.
You have looked back over a long period of time. It is clear that, at the outset of the project, the risk assessments and monitoring were not as robust as they are now—Audit Scotland is now in place, which I am sure reassures people. One of the things that really concerns me, which has already been alluded to, is the amount of time that HIE has taken to consider its options. That is noted in the submission from the local conservation group. HIE commissioned the consultants in December 2008 to examine the business model, which is crucial in order to assess whether it is sustainable in the longer term. For some reason, the report was not available in March 2009. It became available in September 2009, but it will be December before the options are considered. Given that the project is crucial to the local area, I am concerned that it has taken a full year for HIE to commission the work and to start to consider the options.
Do you want to comment on that?
I absolutely acknowledge Mr Kelly's point. As I said earlier, I would be surprised if HIE were not facing considerable challenges in getting a business plan together with private sector involvement, given that, as we note in the report, in the past financial year the draft accounts for the 11-month period ending March 2009 showed a loss of almost £43,000 before tax—that is from the unaudited accounts. There is still the problem of a loss-making facility against the background of no change in the overall business environment within which the funicular operates.
Let us turn to the initial financial planning stages that are outlined in the Auditor General's report. The report says that all the correct practices at the time were followed. However, the comments on page 2 of the key messages report relating to contingency set-aside for the project show that, even in the early stages, the project was woefully short. Standard practice was to set aside 15 per cent of the contract value for contingencies, which would have given the project a £2 million set-aside. However, even in the early stages, only £645,000 was set aside and that figure fell to a paltry £7,600 contingency set-aside, so even in the early stages, sadly, alarm bells were ringing about the financial planning for the project. Was Mr Black involved at that stage or were his predecessors? The evidence shows clearly that there was something seriously wrong with the financial planning for the project.
We are not well placed to assist the committee on the detail of the factors that were taken into account in making the initial decision. It was a long time ago and we do not have all the information that was available. A contingency provision was made, and we know that it was significantly reduced when HIE received tenders that were higher than the estimated amounts. HIE drew back the contingency provision, which would have been a warning sign. I imagine that, at the time, HIE was focused on trying to contain the overall cost to the public purse to the cash limit that the then Secretary of State for Scotland had indicated would be the absolute limit.
HIE's internal audit team carried out some work subsequent to the construction of the funicular railway that identified that very issue. It said that the contingency level was too low for a project of that scale, especially when it was reduced to the figure of around £7,000, to which you referred.
I have another question. The committee has seen reports on other projects in respect of which the estimates for visitor numbers or whatever were inaccurate. The VisitScotland report, for example, showed that the estimates were hugely optimistic about the number of visiting skiers and that such optimism was not borne out. I wonder what kind of rigour is applied in making estimates for such projects. The more optimistic a project is in the early stages, the more viable the business plan appears to be. How do we challenge such assessments and estimates and get better at making them? Obviously, 10 years ago we were woefully wide of the mark again.
As we noted in the review of major capital projects and how they were managed last year, the world has moved on significantly in the years since devolution, and project appraisal and management are now significantly stronger than they were in the early days. However, that is not to say that no risks are associated with those processes. It is important that those who make the principal decisions on such matters prepare their analyses thoroughly, and that those analyses are subject to independent challenge and testing for their robustness before funds are committed. That goes without saying, but there can never be guarantees in such matters.
If that kind of rigour had been applied at the time, would the project still have been given the go-ahead, or is that inviting you to comment on something that you would rather not comment on?
I would prefer not to comment on that, if you do not mind.
I thank Audit Scotland for its report, which is extremely useful and informative. It shines a light on a project that has disclosed some serious weaknesses, for which we should be grateful to Audit Scotland. I have several questions through which I will try to probe the facts behind the report.
My short answer is that it was a weakness. It is reasonable to expect HIE to have revisited the business case at that point and to have recalibrated some of its calculations, taking into account the fact that the operator was struggling financially. With the operator struggling financially in that climate, it would have been reasonable for HIE to take full account of what that implied for the company as a future going concern. We do not have full access to the records from that time, but on the basis of the information that is available to us, it is our understanding that there was no reappraisal at that point.
That is helpful.
I will ask Mark MacPherson to help us with this, but I re-emphasise one point to the committee first: we did not re-perform any of the calculations that were undertaken by the consultants. We say in our report that the costs and benefits were from the findings in the consultants' report. None of the numbers that are reflected in our report are our numbers. I ask Mark MacPherson to help with the background.
It is worth clarifying that the outcome figure of £19.54 million that is given in exhibit 11, to which Mr Fraser refers, is the total construction cost. Elsewhere in the report, we highlight the other support that was given to the operator to assist it to make the business viable.
It is helpful to get that clarity.
We cannot say with absolute certainty that the outcome figure is higher. It is clear that the figure of £11,000 was not calculated simply by dividing the original expected total cost of £14.8 million by the expected number of jobs—doing that would have produced a much higher figure. I understand that the cost-per-job calculation that HIE used took account of other factors, such as the type of financial assistance that was to be provided and comparative interest rates.
To support what Mark MacPherson said, I will say that I would have been far happier had we been able to access the original spreadsheet and look at the numbers, but time has moved on and the original calculations are no longer available. All that we had for the report was the figure that HIE supplied to us.
We should pursue the issue with HIE, convener. The committee will discuss that later.
You also referred to the cost of borrowing. We have no evidence to suggest that borrowing was undertaken specifically to fund the investment.
The trading position of any ski operating company in Scotland is vulnerable and weather dependent. I am interested in the figures on pages 24 and 25, which go into detail about what is in the graph on page 17, to which Murdo Fraser referred. Paragraphs 92 to 94 and paragraphs on page 25 go into greater detail about the financial position.
I invite Mark MacPherson to give a full and detailed answer. As context, I hope that the committee finds exhibit 9 helpful, because it demonstrates that CML's financial performance was such that it did not make profits in any year after about 1991. The trend after that up to the very recent past has been one of year-on-year failure to make a net profit.
It is important to recognise that HIE provided support, including financial and other support, throughout the period, which probably helped the position in the short term. The improvement in the overall position was not all of CML's making. Mr Stephen asked why HIE acted when it did. HIE was concerned that, given that it was not the only body that had an investment in the funicular and its operator, the operator's position would be threatened if it did not manage to turn matters around. For example, the bank had an on-going interest because of a loan that it had made to the operator; we understand that it may have wanted to pursue that. HIE decided that, in the circumstances, it needed to take further action to secure the future of the funicular and the public investment that had been made in the asset.
When HIE took the asset into its ownership, was it aware that in the trading year concerned a profit was about to be made? Mr Black, did you say that that was the first profit that had been made ever, or the first that had been made in many years?
The first in many years.
I think that you said that, after punitive losses in previous years, it was the first profit that had been made since 1991. The report states that the management accounts for an 11-month period in 2008-09 show a loss of £42,000. Do we have the full-year position, now that matters have moved on from March?
CML has moved to match HIE's financial year, so that is now the end of the financial year. We will not know the overall yearly position until the end of the next financial year.
Okay, but it would not be unreasonable to expect that the company's full-year position would be a loss of £40,000 to £50,000.
It is difficult to say. We know, for example, that in the month that followed the end of the financial year there were a further 19,000 visitors, which might have had a positive impact on the figures. We cannot say that without seeing the financial statements for the period.
I come back to the basic principle that the figures tend to support the suggestion that the situation has stabilised significantly compared with the early part of the decade, when multimillion-pound cumulative losses were racked up.
It is difficult to say. We know that the increase in visitor numbers throughout the rest of the year—non-skiing visitors—has had a positive impact on the position, because those visitors generate income. However, the funicular is still very dependent on skiing visitors. If last year was a good year for skiing, that may have influenced the position. If the following year is a poor year for skiing, income could again take a significant dip. No one knows for certain what the weather will be.
Is it fair to say that the figures in the graph in exhibit 9 indicate that skiing numbers have continued to decline, as Murdo Fraser highlighted, to 50,000 visitor days—if that is how the numbers are calculated—whereas, because of the funicular, the figure for non-skiing visitors has risen to more than 150,000 visitor days?
There are other methods of uplift on the mountain, but the funicular takes passengers straight to the top of the slopes. If they ski down part of the mountain, they can then use other methods to return to the top from another point. However, the funicular is the primary uplift method for skiers. It has the greatest capacity on the site.
Yes, but as Murdo Fraser said, the number of skiing visitors has halved since the funicular was introduced in the early part of the decade. I find it hard to believe that any alternative skiing proposition or company could have a remotely profitable and sound trading position at Cairngorm. The funicular is now heavily dependent on non-skiing visitors.
Of course, it needs the skiing visitors as well. Without them, it would be in a far worse position. However, I cannot comment on whether there is a viable skiing opportunity there. That is one of the challenges that HIE faces in its overall consideration of what to do with the funicular.
That brings us nicely back to the business model, which we are eagerly awaiting but which is taking almost a year to deliver. Nicol Stephen's remarks probably give us a hint as to why it is taking so long. In my view, it cannot be based on skiing as the core business activity. Given the figures in the report, it seems clear that it will be based on the related business activity.
We do not have access to that information. You would require to put that question to HIE.
Can I take you back to a comment that was made in passing? If HIE decided to close down the operation and financial support was withdrawn, what would be the costs to the public purse through HIE and the European funding that you mentioned? If the decision was made to close it, what would be the associated costs?
I invite Mark MacPherson to help with that. I hope that you do not mind me saying this, convener, but we would not want to start any rumours about that, because we do not know whether it is a remote possibility or a significant risk.
The major financial risk to the public purse is the cost of the reinstatement that would be required by the conditions under which the funding was approved. We mention that in paragraph 105 of the report, on page 25. HIE was at pains to stress to us that the £30 million to £50 million figure that is quoted in that paragraph is purely speculative. It has done no detailed validation work, and nor have we, on the likely cost of reinstatement. However, it is likely that there would be a high cost associated with that.
If previous experience is anything to go by, £30 million to £50 million could be a conservative estimate.
That highlights the difficulties of exit strategies from major projects, which one comes across from time to time in the public sector. This is a classic case of that problem. Once one is committed, it can often be difficult to get out at a reasonable cost. It might well be that we are now facing that risk, and it might well explain in part the care that HIE is taking in developing a business model for the future.
HIE is in a difficult situation. There is no suggestion that the plug should be pulled but, if the worst came to the worst, huge costs would be associated with doing that, although we do not know exactly how much they would be. I presume that one thing that has been considered is how the lessons can be applied to other projects, as we have tried to do with other reports. I also presume that consideration has been given to where improvements can be made to this specific process. The future business model is critical if we are to come to any sensible conclusion about what should happen, so we are at a slight disadvantage in that we do not have access to it at present. However, we can consider that when we discuss the issue later.
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