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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 October 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

First, any commissioner doing the job properly will want to engage with third sector charities. When I have been going around, talking to people, what has been made clear is that the first thing that the commissioner needs to do is to get out there and hear what the issues are, hear what people are saying and hear about who is already doing what in this area. The commissioner, whoever he or she is, can be the individual who brings groups together, gets them to work together and helps them to run and focus on their campaigns. They do not necessarily have to do all the work themselves—they can be a facilitator, too.

We have seen that with the children’s commissioner, who has been very good at bringing and binding together children’s charities. I hope that the disability commissioner will have a close working relationship with the third sector and any campaigns; they might be running those campaigns or simply facilitating them and bringing people together to run them.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Clearly, the commissioner must be independent, so we cannot tell them what to do, but they will produce an annual report that will come to the Parliament. That will provide an opportunity for, perhaps, a number of committees to scrutinise the work that the commissioner has done over the previous year.

I suppose that we would all say this, but it would be great if there was no need for a disability commissioner in 10 or 15 years’ time because disability was not seen as an issue and disabled people were getting the services, employment opportunities and everything else that people in the rest of society get. In an ideal world, the commissioner would work themselves out of a job.

We can measure the progress that is made. There are issues relating to transport, health and social care and employability, so, if nothing had changed in four years—the commissioner could be appointed for eight years, but there will be a gap at four years—there would be questions about whether that individual should be reappointed for a second term.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I would be deeply worried if that happened. We absolutely need to set some goals or criteria by which we can measure progress. One of the problems in the public sector in general is that it is very difficult to measure such things.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

I will move on. Susie, the bill contains a requirement on social landlords to have a domestic abuse policy. Many social landlords already have such a policy. In your experience, do social landlords already implement domestic abuse policies? What difference would a statutory requirement make, if any?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

The obvious follow-up question is whether you think that that should be delegated to IJBs in all 32 local authorities.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

That is a good answer.

Moving on to the issue of domestic abuse, the bill’s provisions aim to prevent homelessness for those who are at risk of, or are suffering, domestic abuse. What is your view of the effectiveness of those provisions? Perhaps Mike Callaghan or Pat Togher could come in first.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Thank you. I want to come to Valerie Arbuckle on that point. Obviously, the police are the first to deal with domestic abuse. Do you have any views on that aspect of the bill? Just to develop the discussion slightly, is Police Scotland concerned that you are becoming more social workers than police officers?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Good morning, panel, and thank you for coming.

What are some of the problems with the fact that the current legal framework considers people to be threatened with homelessness if it is likely they will become homeless within two months? The bill would change that period to six months. Would that make a difference?

Perhaps we can start with Shea Moran and work along the row.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

Following on from that, does anyone have comments on the proposal in the bill that, as part of the local housing strategy, councils should undertake an assessment of people’s housing support needs and the availability of housing support services, including homelessness services?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Jeremy Balfour

In the interest of openness, I declare that my older brother, Dr Balfour, is a member of the Edinburgh IJB and that my wife is a special constable.

Before we turn to domestic abuse, I will quickly go back to the previous theme and ask Pat Togher a question about how IJBs work in practice. If someone is in hospital and needs housing or might become homeless, is it the role of the local authority or of the national health service to deal with that, or is that your role? How do we ensure that such individuals do not fall between the cracks?