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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. We will now move on to our last theme, which is scientific evidence and monitoring. It is probably the biggest and most difficult one, and we have about 10 minutes in which to cover it. We will start with a question from Tim Eagle.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

This is an appropriate time to move on to the next question, which is from Alasdair Allan.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

We have no more questions, but I am minded to suggest that we spend the final five minutes on any further comments that the witnesses would like to put on the record before we move to our next panel.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Do you believe that the right balance has been struck?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

David, you touched on your view that the static gear operators did not get the same input as others to the consultation. Do you believe that what we have now gives equal weight to static and mobile fishing?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

I would like to follow up on that. What is your experience of local authorities getting involved? Again, I will be parochial and talk about the local authority in my patch. The UK scallop industry is hugely focused on ports such as Kirkcudbright and the processors, but the local authority’s engagement with the scallop industry is extremely limited.

In addition, because of MPAs and other spatial pressures, scallop fishing is far more nomadic in nature than it was in the past, so it does not naturally sit within the footprint of a single local authority. Fishing boats leave Kirkcudbright and head for the English Channel or the area off the coast of the north-east of England or wherever.

Do local authorities have enough understanding of the economic and social impact of fisheries policies? Aberdeenshire Council has an insight into that, but is it unique in that respect?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Go for it, Tim.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Welcome back. Moving on to the fourth item on the agenda, I welcome to the meeting Gillian Martin, the Cabinet Secretary for Climate Action and Energy, and the following Scottish Government officials: John Mouat, head of protected seas; Conor Nangle, offshore marine protected area delivery lead; and Charlotte Altass, offshore marine protected area policy manager. We have around an hour for this discussion, and we have quite a few questions, too, so I again remind everybody to try to keep their questions and answers as succinct as possible.

Before we begin, I invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary.

No doubt, you or your officials heard the evidence in the previous two sessions, which appeared to suggest that the consultation process had been well carried out, with most of the stakeholders feeling that their contributions had played some part in shaping the regulations that we see now. I might know the answer to this already, but my question is: why did the Scottish Government opt for zonal management in most of the MPAs, despite evidence from the JNCC, and NatureScot in some instances, recommending whole-site closures?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Finlay Carson

You have talked about adaptive management and different types of fishing having different impacts, but can you set out your criteria for determining that there should be a whole-site closure rather than a zonal approach, which appeared to be universally welcomed in some areas? What did you look at? What was the process of deciding that an area should have a full closure?