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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Will the inclusion of such a provision achieve something that cannot be achieved under the common-law offence of theft?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Currently, is a criminal more likely to be convicted of an animal welfare charge or a theft charge in the event of a pet being stolen?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Finlay Carson

The next item on our agenda is our first evidence session on the Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill.

I welcome our panel of representatives from stakeholder organisations. This morning, we are joined by Chief Inspector Michael Booker, Police Scotland; Dr Paula Boyden, veterinary director, the Dogs Trust; Laura Buchan, procurator fiscal for policy and engagement, the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service; Gilly Mendes Ferreira, director of strategic communications and partnership engagement—my goodness—the Scottish SPCA; Mike Moore, policy and campaigns manager for Scotland, the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association; and Stuart Munro, convener of the criminal law committee, the Law Society of Scotland. You are all very welcome.

I also welcome Maurice Golden MSP, who is the member in charge of the bill, although I understand that he will be with us for only a short time this morning.

We have up to 90 minutes for the session. Before we start, I remind everyone that you do not need to operate your microphones; we have a gentleman here who will do it for you.

I will kick off with the first question. There are no official statistics on the level of dog thefts in Scotland or across the United Kingdom. However, Police Scotland provided the data that there were 63 dog thefts recorded in 2024. Do we believe that that is an accurate figure? If not, what is the best available data indicating the number of dog thefts and the trends in Scotland?

Who would like to kick off?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Finlay Carson

When you say that it is not accurate, is that because the figure is likely to be a lot higher? [Interruption.]

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Is there a sort of steal-to-order culture out there, with organised crime targeting pets on the street?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Finlay Carson

That may be one for Vera Eory to kick off on.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Finlay Carson

I am glad that Rhoda Grant touched on that. I know that we have previously had conversations about the CCC’s apparent obsession with reducing livestock numbers in the United Kingdom. It is quite obvious, when we look at global emissions, that the emissions from livestock in the UK are insignificant—they are not significant at all. They might be significant in the context of UK emissions, but, globally, they are not.

Do we get the balance right? Do we look at the impact of removing cattle and sheep ruminants from our hills, our grassland and whatever? Do we look at what would replace that, and how it would all balance out?

Right now, we have a rapidly declining national beef herd; I would suggest that we are almost at a critical mass. We are seeing record prices for livestock because there is a shortage. It is not because we are producing better meat or because the demand is higher—the demand has flatlined—but we are seeing a shortage, and meat prices are at record highs.

How should Governments approach that? We will not stop people eating beef, lamb or pork overnight, but some of the interventions need to take place now. Should we simply ensure that we recognise that livestock in the UK is produced with a carbon footprint that is significantly lower than elsewhere in the world? How do we get the balance right?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Elena, I think that we are moving on to your question next.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Finlay Carson

We will move on to our last topic. We have broadly covered it as part of the witnesses’ contributions, but Ariane Burgess might have a tidying-up question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Finlay Carson

Would those schemes be limited by the IT system? You probably heard in the previous evidence session and last week that some innovative schemes will not be able to progress because the IT system is unable to deliver them. Do you see that as a risk?