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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 August 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

This is a yes or no question. What role do local authorities have as public health bodies? Do they have a role in inspecting, or where does that role fall?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Do you have any concerns about the capacity within local authorities to carry out those requirements?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Can you give us some examples of when a clearly defined rough shoot, as you understand it, could be identified as hare coursing or illegal fox hunting? When could that happen?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

You talked about the disease being worse in turkeys. Yesterday, at the Westminster hearing, we heard that there are about 8 million turkeys in the UK and about 50 per cent of the free-range turkeys—about 1 million birds—have died or been slaughtered. What is the picture like in Scotland? Do we have a large industry? I suppose that it does not matter whether it is large, because it would be devastating for the people involved in it. Do we have many outdoor flocks of turkeys and chickens that might be destined for the Christmas market?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

If you thought that there was more that you could add, I am sure that the committee would welcome your writing to us to highlight some of the main concerns that you have.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Okay. I call Mercedes Villalba.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

If we started using vaccines, the disease status of the whole of the UK and Northern Ireland would be affected and there would be an impact on exports.

At the risk of going off on a tangent, there is a suggestion that, given the short lifespan of chickens for food production—I think that the longest is about four months—there is an opportunity to use gene editing to quickly bring in a type of chicken that is more resistant to avian flu. Have you looked at that?

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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Okay, so there is an extension to what the period would be if the birds were voluntarily housed.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 32nd meeting in 2022 of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee. Before we begin, I remind members who are using electronic devices to switch them to silent.

Item 1 is an evidence session with the Minister for Environment and Land Reform on the Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill. We have one hour scheduled for the session.

I welcome to the meeting Màiri McAllan, the Minister for Environment and Land Reform; Hugh Dignon, head of the wildlife and flood management unit; Leia Fitzgerald, bill team leader; and Amy Hogarth, solicitor.

I invite the minister to make an opening statement.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Finlay Carson

I will kick off by looking at the balance between the impact of the bill on people who undertake legal shooting activities and making sure that there is clarity on enforcement against illegal activities. We all know that animal welfare is a primary reason for and objective of the bill, and we want to make sure that that objective is met. The committee is not aware of any evidence that the welfare of rabbits has ever been a consideration, but we understand that rabbits are included as part of stopping hare coursing.

Since rabbit welfare was never raised prior to the bill being introduced, nor has it been raised since its introduction or in evidence on animal welfare, why can we not include a recklessness element in the bill along with the condition on landowner’s permission, to satisfy the level of evidence that would be required for a conviction of hare coursing? We heard from DS Telford that such an element would assist greatly when it came to poaching. Why is there not an exclusion for rough shooting, which, as you have said minister, can be clearly identified, to get rid of some of the unintended consequences?