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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 October 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

That is the problem. The bill is potentially giving a huge power to create more flexibility in areas where we are not sure that flexibility is required. I do not want to put words into Rhoda Grant’s mouth, but what flexibility do you have currently and how do you use it? Also, are there areas in which you do not have, but might want, flexibility? I think that, up to now, the only example that we have had from ministers has been to do with the Government’s ability to use digitised rather than paper documents. That is the only example that we have had from the bill team. What flexibility do you have at the moment, and what flexibility do you not have that you think this overarching power could deliver to deal with things that exist now, not something that might or might not occur in the future?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Well, it is both.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Rhoda, do you have any further questions?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

I have a question for Chris Tuckett. Will the EIA provisions that this bill will deliver, if it goes through, be compatible with the direction of travel on environmental outcomes in England? Will we have issues further down the road? We are seeing increasing examples of mitigation measures being put in place elsewhere in the United Kingdom to offset offshore wind farms down south. For example, south-west Scotland has been chosen as the site to mitigate the potential impact on Sandwich terns in Norfolk. Will we have issues in the future if the approaches to EIAs and environmental outcomes diverge?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Rhoda Grant has a supplementary question, and then she will ask her next set of questions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

In that case, we may need to consider amendments that ensure that we avoid those unintended consequences.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Crown Estate Scotland could probably kick off on that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

We will now hear from a second panel on the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill. I welcome to the meeting Alan Hunt and Neil Langhorn from Environmental Standards Scotland. Thank you for your patience this morning. We have up to 45 minutes for this session. You do not need to operate the mics—that will be done for you.

I will kick off with a quick question. ESS has been given a new function in the bill as an independent review body. How will that role complement and interact with your existing functions as an environmental watchdog?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Mercedes, before we move on to part 2, do you have any questions?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Mercedes, do you have any questions?