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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting of the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee in 2023. Before we begin, I remind members who are using mobile devices to turn them to silent. We have received apologies from Karen Adam, and I welcome Emma Harper, who is attending in Karen’s place.

Our business today is consideration of the Tuberculosis (Scotland) Order 2023. I remind everybody that we were not supposed to meet today, but we had some questions about the order last week and are fortunate to have officials from the Scottish Government with us at short notice to answer some questions that arose when we briefly looked at it. I welcome Sheila Voas, the chief veterinary officer, and Louise Cameron, the policy officer for the disease control branch.

I will kick off the questions. Can you tell us what the current situation is with TB in Scotland?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Finlay Carson

How often are herds in Scotland tested?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Finlay Carson

For the record, I want to be clear about the whole process, as it might be helpful for anybody who is listening to the session. If I were a dairy farmer in the south of Scotland—as I was—and I decided to buy some cattle from Devon, which is an area with a high incidence of TB, what process would I have to go through now, and what will the process be once the legislation comes into force?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Finlay Carson

I suppose that the nature of the secondary legislation is such that, if things were to ramp up in other nations, you could come back with further restrictions or reductions in compensation or penalties if you thought that that would help to preserve our status.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you. I tend to agree. Last night, at the BVA dinner, there was a fantastic discussion about, and recognition of, the issues right across the UK among vets and representatives from every part of the country. That was helpful.

I have one very short, technical question. We touched on cross-compliance and potential cross-compliance penalties. Will there be a requirement for animal health and cross-compliance provisions in the proposed agriculture bill? We have started pre-legislative consideration of the bill, which will be before us after the summer.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Finlay Carson

We are disease free. Is that the norm? Can you give us an indication of how many countries in Europe have TB and how many are disease free?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

That leads on to the next question. We are now halfway through the 10-year farmed fish health framework, which was, as we know, established in 2018. What is your opinion of its performance to date, and can you set out some of the key achievements?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

I was lucky enough to visit some salmon businesses in North America in April. Faroe Islands salmon appears to be the premium product, because it is seen as being produced in a more sustainable and environmentally friendly way. Norwegian salmon also appears to take a lead, and Scottish salmon seems to be in third place.

Do we need to up our game? Do we need to increase regulation? At the moment, Scotland seems to be an attractive place to have an aquaculture business, because the regulations are more lax than they are in the Faroe Islands and in Norway. What is your perspective on Scotland’s position when it comes to regulation and producing the highest-quality product?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

No, no—I am sorry, Ariane. It is my understanding that the application that you are touching on has gone to public inquiry. Is that correct? If that is the case, it might not be—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you.