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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Finlay Carson

You said that local authorities are best placed to deal with the issue. Do they have the expertise and the capacity to make informed judgments about the appropriateness of fish farms beyond 3 nautical miles?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Finlay Carson

We have run out of time. I thank you all for your very valued contributions this morning.

We will have a brief suspension before moving on to the next item. We will resume at 11:35.

11:26 Meeting suspended.  

11:34 On resuming—  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Finlay Carson

In that case, we will go to Tim Eagle first.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Finlay Carson

We will move on to our final question, from Evelyn Tweed.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Without the evidence from an independent review on what could be most effective, how do we know that what is done is right?

We have just finished considering parts 1 and 2 of the bill, and a lot of the discussion was on review reporting targets, but it appears that national parks do not have to undertake reviews on an independent basis—again, they are marking their own homework. Another area in Scotland is potentially being designated as a national park, and one of the big issues that we see there is a lack of confidence that national parks are actually delivering. If an independent review had been undertaken at some point, the benefits, or otherwise, would be clear and transparent.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Before we move away from the subject of national parks, I want to touch on what is not in the bill in that regard. Everyone will be aware of the controversy about the potential designation of a national park in Galloway. There is concern about how the decision that Galloway would be the sole contender for that designation was arrived at, and the lack of transparency about or understanding of how we got to that point. There is nothing in the legislation that sets out the route for an area to be identified as a candidate for a national park.

Whichever side of the argument people are on—whether they are pro or anti national parks—I do not think that there is any doubt that the process has been a car crash that has caused a lot of division. There are many polarised views. Ultimately, the process has totally derailed what should have been a very positive experience and one that was similar to the experience 25 years ago, when the first designations took place. At the weekend, we heard from stakeholders that 300 or 400 businesses got very actively involved in setting up the Cairngorms national park, and we heard how businesses, individuals and communities played a massive part in that. With the proposed Galloway national park, that has been completely absent.

There has not been a clear indication of what the proposed national park would be. Should there be something in legislation to make clearer the Government’s obligations to ensure that the process to designate new national parks is more engaging and contains more information? One of the problems is that there is a massive vacuum in relation to how the new national park might look. We are always told that Galloway is an area of intensive forestry, intensive farming and intensive renewables, which is unlike any other national park in the world. We are told that it will be different, but not in what way. Should the legislation on national parks have contained more direction on future policy on the designation of parks, given the mess that the current process is in?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Finlay Carson

When we had farmer stakeholders here, we heard that there is a sense of complete inertia when it comes to forming policy. You sit on a biodiversity forum. The agriculture reform implementation oversight board was described as a fig leaf for doing nothing. Will we see plans being developed at the pace that we know is needed? Will co-design be part of this, or, ultimately, will we just not make the progress that we need?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Emma Harper, do you have any further questions?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Jamie, do you want to come in?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Finlay Carson

David, you are saying that you do not want to come in on that, as it has been covered. The next question is from Mark Ruskell.

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