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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

On that point, what if a business’s decision is not to take up single farm payments, or any payments?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

How do we then regulate for net zero?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Again, I will bring the focus back to the rural support plan. Currently, the legislation suggests that agricultural, forestry, rural land use, the environment and the climate change plan need to be considered within the rural support plan, but it does not mention the cost of food or the good food nation approach. It would appear that you are suggesting that that should be mentioned in it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Okay. Thank you. Rachael, I think that you have a question on a different topic. I will bring you in as long as it is very brief and we get yes or no responses.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

We will move on to some of the other objectives of the agricultural policy, with questions from Kate Forbes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Finlay Carson

No—it is my opinion. Thanks, Alasdair.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Finlay Carson

Thank you, convener. First, I should probably declare an interest as a species champion for the native oyster bed. I am in the unique position of being a species champion who can actually eat the species that he is trying to protect, and I enjoy the odd one, I must admit. This morning, we have heard about crowded seas and marine spatial squeeze. We are now seeing a policy squeeze, with crowded ministerial responsibilities. One reason why I am here today is that there is still a fluffy idea of who takes responsibility.

We have discussed marine issues in our committee, particularly the lack of fit-for-purpose data. How much is actually collected properly, and how much is modelled? That is a concern. We saw clearly from the Bute house agreement-driven Clyde cod box debacle, that embarrassing situation in which Marine Scotland officers tried to defend inadequate data in order to change policy, that there are issues there. From the rural affairs point of view, we understand that creating a biodiversity-positive marine environment is of critical importance, but we cannot forget the socioeconomic impact of policies; that is equally important. Arguments are often made without touching on the positive or negative aspects of socioeconomic impact, because they sometimes just do not fit the narrative of the groups or organisations that are trying to promote a particular point of view.

In agriculture, rural land use partnerships bring all the stakeholders together and are supposed to look at landscape-scale policies and the impact that they have across the board. I was surprised that no one touched on regional inshore fisheries groups, which are supposed to be the groups in which fishermen and stakeholders can give their input and comment on policies. Does that suggest that the Government is not serious about engaging with the fishing industry through those regional inshore groups? As far as I can see, they are inadequately funded and not really fit for purpose. Could I have your comments specifically on whether regional inshore fisheries groups have a role in ensuring that we can have a biodiversity plan that works for biodiversity and for fishing communities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Finlay Carson

The delivery plan does not appear to be costed, and you have touched on an equivalent of a financial memorandum. However, it is very ambitious. It is a bit like the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill in that it is very ambitious, there are no boundaries to it and we do not know how much it will cost. Do we need to be more pragmatic going forward? Ambition is good, but not if you cannot deliver on your ambitions and if there are targets that cannot possibly be met. There is an argument that climate change targets are far too ambitious and that we need to be more pragmatic. Does this plan need to be more pragmatic to deliver effectively?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Finlay Carson

I am delighted that you suggested that the committee should take that role, because it was discussed last week whether the Parliament should have a role in scrutinising the rural action plan, given its importance, and in ensuring that it is adequate to deliver the Government’s vision. Thank you for that—that was going to be my next question.