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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Would anyone else like to come in? Everybody is looking at the desk in front of them.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

The implication is that that is not implicit and that it needs to be—if I am reading between the lines correctly.

We will move on to part 3, on national parks.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

We have heard that some of the planning applications are quite complex and resource intensive, but we also heard from one local authority that believed that, as you have stated, they will not all come along at once but will start to come in gradually and slowly.

However, it is our understanding that the applications are not processed on a full cost recovery basis, which might put financial strains on local authorities. If more applications were to come forward, would the Scottish Government increase fees to allow for full cost recovery or, at least, put in place some mechanism to ensure full cost recovery?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. I call Beatrice Wishart.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

That brings our questions to an end. Thank you very much, Mr Triscott, for joining us this morning.

We now move to formal consideration of the instrument. I invite the minister to move motion S6M-17363.

Motion moved,

That the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee recommends that the Town and Country Planning (Marine Fish Farming) (Scotland) Amendment Order 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Ivan McKee]

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Does any member wish to debate the motion?

As no member wishes to debate the motion, is the committee content to recommend approval of the instrument?

Members: No.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

There will be a division.

For

Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con)
Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP)
Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP)
Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD)

Against

Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course, and I invite the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to finalise the report for publication. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

What are Brendan Callaghan’s views on how Scottish forestry or commercial forestry in general might evidence ecosystem health now and how that might be improved in the future? We have heard in previous evidence sessions about the lack of data on ecosystems and biodiversity in forestry. How could a target on ecosystem health affect Scottish forestry?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Is there a risk that we could end up with an endless list, with the focus then on the things that were excluded from the list rather than those that were on it? You could argue that indigenous species or indigenous populations should be protected or that there should be a focus on sustainable economic regeneration or development. Those things are included in other bullet points but they are not specifically set out in the bill. I apologise to any planners who are watching, but we know what planners are like. Could having what appears to be a hierarchy of objectives lead to unintended outcomes? Katherine Leys, is that possible? I presume that the shrug of your shoulders suggests that that could be a possibility.