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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

That might be one for Annie Breaden, given her response about the reports that she produced. Does there need to be more accountability and legal requirements for the reports? Does the feedback loop that you talked about need to be improved?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Is it your view that a lack of understanding or awareness is the issue in the non-compliance, even though it is a relatively low number?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

I call Elena Whitham.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. Before we finish questions on part 1, does Mercedes Villalba have any questions?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Thank you. We will move on to part 2 of the bill, which covers EIA legislation and the habitats regulations.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Before you come in, Dr Leys, I have a question for Brendan Callaghan, who has given us a very technical response—which I must admit went right over my head. It appears to be a massive sledgehammer to crack a tiny nut. You have come up with one example. This is a huge, overarching power and it is still not clear why it is needed to resolve the issue that you described. You have also talked about things that might happen, but I do not think that, as a committee, we find it very easy to pass just-in-case legislation, particularly when that overarching power will be hugely extended. Is it proportionate to take such a power to address that one issue?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

Just on that example, is NatureScot currently utilising the ability to add missing features? On our recent visit to the Cairngorms, we saw birch and willow in some areas of open space. Does NatureScot not have the ability to add missing features without having to be provided with any extensive extra powers?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

I want to cover some of the topics that we have just heard about. First, a lot of stakeholders have told us that they see no reason for part 2. They are concerned that it gives the Government broad, sweeping powers that they do not feel are necessary, and they feel that a lot of existing provisions already give the flexibility that the Government is seeking. They were also concerned about the bill’s not including a non-regression provision and that, as we have heard, the overriding objectives have not been clearly defined.

Are you confident that the principles that you have set out in your submission about maintaining

“a high level of environmental protection”

and

“ensuring Scotland keeps pace”

can be delivered within the bill as drafted, or do further amendments need to be made other than those relating to how secondary legislation might be dealt with by the Parliament?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

I have just a quick question. We were quite baffled by the reasons that the bill team gave initially for including part 2 in the bill; indeed, the only example that they gave was the ability to digitise EIAs. Could guidance be used when it comes to digitising EIAs, or is primary legislation needed for that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Finlay Carson

So, there might be some scope in that respect.

As we have no further questions, I thank Alan Hunt and Neil Langhorn very much for their succinct and helpful responses to our questions and for joining us this morning.

That concludes our business in public, so we will now move into private session.

12:47 Meeting continued in private until 12:58.