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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

Yes I have, Presiding Officer.

16:29  

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

The most important way to recognise the loss and suffering of the people of Scotland and the wider UK population during the pandemic is to learn from the evidence.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

I am conscious of time and of the constant chuntering by Conservative members.

I am concerned about the fact that not only did the former UK Prime Minister drag the UK inquiry through court but Boris Johnson has still refused to hand over his WhatsApp messages.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

I can see already that folk are gonnae be on their feet every two minutes, no matter what we say.

First, it is vital that we learn from and reflect on our experience of the pandemic and that we obtain answers for those who lost loved ones over the course of the pandemic. We have already heard members reflect on their own experience of losing loved ones. We need to ensure that we help families who are still grieving. It is important that we ensure that both the Scottish and UK inquiries go ahead and are clear, transparent and engaging.

I remind members that I worked as a nurse during the pandemic, vaccinating my colleagues and members of the public. That was during a time when we had a lockdown because, just after lockdown, we had the first Covid vaccines. We were right there on the front line. We need to remember what happened back then so that we can improve the way that we tackle any future outbreaks of whatever virus or deal with whatever pandemic or crisis that we face.

The people who lost their lives are not just statistics.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

We must remember the work of Nicola Sturgeon and, of course, Jeane Freeman, Jason Leitch and Gregor Smith. They put work in every day when we were witnessing on our television screens what was happening with the pandemic around the globe.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

I was reflecting on the fact that the Scottish Government has a policy for mobile phones and records management. It says:

“Mobile messaging does not change your responsibility within Scottish Government to maintain complete and comprehensive records of key conversations and decisions.”

All that information is already there.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

Both inquiries will help to determine what could have been done differently and will serve to improve Government decision making in any future pandemic, viral outbreak or other crisis. We want to ensure that we focus on how we save lives and prevent suffering in the future. As the First Minister said, the Scottish Government will examine and consider closely the recommendations that the Scottish and UK public inquiries make. We need to let the inquiries progress. That would be the normal thing to do.

Contrary to what the Conservative motion states, the Scottish Government has fully complied with both inquiries and will continue to do so. Scottish ministers, including the First Minister and Deputy First Minister, and officials have already provided a large volume of information. Members have outlined that. The Scottish Government has provided 25 detailed corporate statements and has been involved in the request for 89 individual statements in support of module 2A of the UK inquiry.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scottish Ministerial Code (First Minister and Deputy First Minister)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Emma Harper

In contrast to the UK Government’s attempts to limit the requests for information from the chair of the UK inquiry, Baroness Hallett, the Scottish Government has already committed to fully co-operating with the UK inquiry.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Vaping (Public Health Impact)

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Emma Harper

Sheila Duffy will know that Dr Jonathan Coutts came to a meeting of the cross-party group on lung health, which I co-convene. We had a presentation on vaping, especially among young people. Given the targeting, I am really concerned about a raft of new interstitial lung diseases—I raise that because I have close links with Phyllis Murphie, who is a nurse consultant in respiratory medicine and who happens to be my sister.

We have explored future lung ill health among young people. Dr Coutts talked about the alarming rise in the number of teens who are using e-cigarettes, from 3 to 43 per cent, which has reversed a lot of the work to eliminate nicotine exposure and then addiction. Whether or not use is illicit, how concerned are you that young people are being exposed directly to nicotine, which will harm them?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Vaping (Public Health Impact)

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Emma Harper

Do we need to revise how we support people to quit smoking? The NHS “Quit Your Way Scotland” service is part of that support.