Chamber and committees

To ask the Scottish Government what discussions the rural affairs secretary has had with ministerial colleagues regarding the delivery of the rural crime strategy. (S6O-02202)

SPARC has seen positive results in reductions in rural crime and associated financial costs in the past year alone. Between April 2022 and March 2023, there were 284 fewer rural crimes reported than there were in the previous year, as well as an overall reduction in the financial harm to Scotland’s rural communities of more than £2 million, which equates to a drop of almost 36 per cent. SPARC’s approach is working, so will the cabinet secretary meet me and SPARC to discuss what action can be taken to build further on the reduction in crime for our communities across Scotland?

The words “co-design” and “co-production” are often used interchangeably but, in this case, we are pursuing co-design. Just yesterday, I had a conversation with an elected member who used “co-production” and “co-design” as if they were interchangeable. I am interested to hear about what the co-design process really is and how distinct it is from co-production.

I will pick up on some of the issues about engaging with COSLA and the unions. We took evidence from the Scottish Partnership for Palliative Care and heard that

“The national care service is a real opportunity to be part of improving people’s experiences of living with serious illness, and of dying and bereavement.”—[Official Report, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, 13 December 2022; c 5.]

Age Scotland said that the Scottish Government has made it clear that there is a commitment to involving people with lived experience.

I would be interested in hearing about engagement with unions. I read a statement from Unison that said that

“the bill leaves profiteering at the heart of care”

and I know that there are concerns about employment and pensions. In contrast with the position of the Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland, the Scottish Partnership for Palliative Care and Age Scotland, who all welcome the bill, others have concerns and may feel that they need to have a voice. Can you speak about that, minister?

When you made your opening statement, minister, you talked about the fact that you are a Highland MSP. The Highlands is a rural area. I am an MSP for South Scotland, which is also rural. There are complexities in designing impactful changes, so I am glad to hear about the processes that will be undertaken, especially those that will look at services.

In Dumfries and Galloway, there are no council-run care homes, but in the Borders, for instance, there is a mix of private and council-run care homes. Is that going to affect the work that is taken forward? Will that look at the fact that individual areas have specific needs?

In its report on the bill, which I have in front of me, COSLA made a positive statement. It said that it recognised that a national care service in some form

“could provide national leadership on matters such as workforce planning, training, terms and conditions, national standards, ethical procurement, registration, inspection, and improvement.”

However, COSLA had concerns, and it asked for the bill to be amended. That means that you will need to work with COSLA and with the relevant representatives, as you have indicated. I just wanted to clarify that.

I have one final question on this wee section. Things such as the regional forums will help to identify the differences that you described, such as differences in pay. As a former nurse educator, I am interested in support for career pathways and career progression, and I think that a national standard approach would give more weight to career pathways for social workers and carers. Will the forums and the plans for regional approaches help to determine that a standardised approach to education will be part of the national aspect?

We need people to be empowered to understand that they will be part of the co-design process and that the bill is a framework that we will build on. Is that what we are asking people to believe and trust—that they will be part of the co-design?

Scotland benefits from EU alignment in many areas, but, with Brexit, we find ourselves cut off from the EU structural funds that helped our communities to flourish for decades, not to mention from the major €800 billion NextGenerationEU pandemic recovery programme, which has completely bypassed Brexit Britain. There are also massive barriers to European trade. While Scotland remains outside the single market, how does the cabinet secretary hope to maximise investment from our European partners?

On data gathering, will the cabinet secretary outline how the Scottish Government will ensure that the opportunities that are created by new technology, data and analytical services will be delivered by a sustainable, well-trained and supported workforce?