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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

On the back of that comment, would you make a plea to the Cabinet for further funding for the top-up, beyond what you already allocate?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I will go back to my original question. Notwithstanding the arguments that you make about the flexibility of a framework bill, what is holding civil servants back from issuing a draft publication of the allocation of funding within a rural support plan? Is it resource or capacity?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Okay. I think that there are questions relating to that point later on.

You said that the 70 per cent allocation to tiers 1 and 2 was announced just a week ago. Has there been any consideration of the ring fencing of certain levels of that funding or of providing funding through multi-annual funding agreements?

10:00  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

What analysis did you use to come to the conclusion that you wanted to allocate 70 per cent of direct payments in tier 1 and 2 if you did not have foresight or knowledge of future allocations?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

For clarity, what is the total funding that you envisage in the 70 per cent of direct payments?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I am just wondering whether the five-year review timeframe is too long in terms of consultation. Obviously, we hope that, in the future, farmers will be paid annually by the Government. If farmers cannot access funding because of non-compliance, because they are not meeting your definition of sustainable and regenerative agriculture, it will take them a very long while to put in place what is necessary to meet that definition. We are talking about many different farming contexts here; we are not talking about one size fits all. I think that the Scottish Government could consider whether a five-year process is just too long.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I want to get some clarity on what Andrew Crawley said. Part 2 of the bill includes various sections, but the section that he talked about—section 13—is about eligibility criteria, payment entitlements, amount, conditions, enforcement and administration in relation to support. Those are technical things, but the fact remains that part 2 in total is subject to the negative procedure. Cabinet secretary, are you saying that you would be open to amendments that separate the sections of part 2, which would allow some technical amendments to be subject to the negative procedure and others to be subject to the affirmative procedure, based on the committee’s recommendations?

10:30  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

Looking at it from the other point of view, stakeholders have expressed concerns about why the code of practice is there at all and what it actually means. How will the Parliament scrutinise its direct or indirect benefits and its impact on climate change targets? The Government sets the rules. If farmers are being told to comply with conditions set by the Government, and if they are unable to access funding if they do not comply, surely all the power is held by the Government, even if the direct or indirect impact of the code of practice is being scrutinised to see whether it is working.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

I will go back to amendment 16, if you do not mind. Obviously, it is a very practical amendment. The Scottish Government often co-designs schemes with practitioners. I am very happy to support the amendment, and I do not see why the Scottish Government should not consider that, on the basis of the experience and knowledge that practitioners have.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Rachael Hamilton

As was articulated by Edward Mountain, the bill should remain focused on the remit of red grouse shooting. Part 1B currently includes only red grouse. However, the bill empowers the Scottish ministers to add further birds to the section 16AA licensing regime, if they think that it is appropriate to do so, via secondary legislation. The consultation preceding the bill did not signal an intention to regulate other species, so that broad enabling power is likely to come as a surprise to rural stakeholders without grouse interests, as that change could have a significant downstream consequence for the sector more broadly.

The bill’s policy memorandum says:

“The purpose of the ... scheme is to address the on-going issue of wildlife crime, and in particular the persecution of raptors, on managed grouse moors.”

The committee agrees with that. The policy memorandum continues:

“It will do this by enabling a licence to be modified, suspended or revoked, where there is robust evidence of raptor persecution or another relevant wildlife crime related to grouse moor management”.

What else would you like me to do, convener?