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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

That is a useful point. Understandably, we are paying a lot of attention to who will be on the committee, but any representative structure such as that will have, at best, a handful of people from each group and probably just one young person or learner. That is a point about wider participation and engagement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

I am sorry to cut across you, but on the wider point about engagement with your members and, in particular, the team of 20 that you mentioned, there is a question of consultation on the bill and on the operating model that is being developed for the body. To what extent were your members engaged in relation to the drafting of the bill, and to what extent are they being engaged as we proceed with the development of the operating model? A lot of the organisational arrangements should not be in legislation, because that limits flexibility, but it is essential that your members are consulted on that as well. It does not sound as though that is happening, if I have picked you up correctly.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Thanks, convener. One of the proposals to resolve the situation is to move the accreditation option into HMIE, because one of the Government’s key objections to separating the functions has been the cost of creating a new public body. Ken McAra, would moving the accreditation function into HMIE be a solution, or would that cause other issues? Would we be resolving one arguable conflict of interests by creating another one?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

There has already been quite a bit of discussion about the influence that young people can or cannot have on the structure, so I do not want to cover too much of that ground. I am interested in any suggestions that you might have for specific amendments that could be made to the bill.

Megan Farr, you have already mentioned the difference between someone representing the interests of learners or young people and actually having a requirement for there to be either a learner or, better yet, a young person rather than an adult, on the committee. Would you suggest any other specific amendments to the bill to strengthen the ability for young people in particular to participate and have an influence? I would also like to hear any thoughts that you have about adult learners and, in your case Gavin Yates, about parents and carers.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Thank you—that was useful.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

That is really useful. It sounds as though Unite’s position is that there are weaknesses in having a voluntary rather than mandatory system. Can you say a little about what those weaknesses are? Is it your position that, in legislation, it should become a mandatory system?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Megan Farr made a point a moment ago—Gavin Yates or Garvin Sealy mentioned it, too, I think—about the fact that qualifications Scotland staff cannot make up a majority on a committee, although they could make up 49 per cent of it. Would you suggest amending the bill to have a lower cap on the proportion of the committee who can be staff of qualifications Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 October 2024

Ross Greer

Good morning. There is an interesting section in the Unite response that I will pick up on a wee bit. I will quote it so that I am not getting it wrong. You said that the bill, as it currently stands,

“does not recognise the importance of Qualification Regulation in relation to the protection of the learner. There is nothing in the Bill that would strengthen regulation of qualifications in Scotland and this is a missed opportunity.”

In the first instance, can you expand on what you see as being weaknesses in the current regulation system? It sounds like you do not think that the system, as it currently stands, is strong enough, and that the bill has been a missed opportunity. Before we talk about how to strengthen it, it would be helpful for the committee if you could give us a bit of background on why you think that the current system is not delivering as much as it could.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Ross Greer

Good morning. In the first instance, I want to check something with you, Councillor Hagmann, about the joint working group on sources of local government funding and council tax reform, which you mentioned. How many times has that met since the change in the Administration?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Ross Greer

From all your written submissions and the evidence that we have heard, it feels as though there are not a lot of new ideas for fiscal empowerment for councils. The infrastructure levy was agreed to in the Planning (Scotland) Act 2019; the cruise ship levy was announced last year; and the Visitor Levy (Scotland) Act 2024 has been passed by the Parliament. What new proposals will local government put on the table to add to the agenda? What new powers do you want on which you will be seeking agreement from the Scottish Government?