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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Virtual Trials

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

We do not need to write to the SCTS, so members are welcome to agree.

Criminal Justice Committee

Priorities in the Justice Sector and an Action Plan

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

On that point, I agree that there is a contradiction in saying that remand numbers are not falling and then saying that they have reduced by 10 per cent. I appreciate what you say about fluctuations, but 10 per cent is quite meaty. I know that, if the Government were using that statistic, it would hail the reduction as a success and would not say that the numbers were constant.

The wider point that Katy Clark is making is that the information that is set out needs to be seen in context. That is, what is important is not just the fact that the numbers are falling but what is happening as a percentage of the overall prison population—that is an important measurement.

However, that does not really take into account two factors. The first is the crime profile of those who are being held on remand, given that the lion’s share of them are remanded on charges that would require solemn proceedings and are therefore more serious. It also does not take into account how many of the remand population of 25 to 29 per cent—the numbers fluctuate—are on remand because of delays to trials. I do not know whether it is 10 per cent, all of them, some of them or half of them. There may be a cohort of people who are held on remand but would not be had their trials come to pass. We need to be cognisant of that as well.

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Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

Who is headquarters? Is it a person or a chain of command?

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

Somebody must have signed off the decision.

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

Okay, so the buck rests at the top—I understand that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

I understand that, but I do not think that it really answers the question. I will put the question directly to the cabinet secretary. Is that a temporary measure, or will it become a permanent feature of how the process works?

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

Good morning. I will open my questioning with some consensus on what the cabinet secretary said about the fact that we need to be careful not to stigmatise an entire community for the actions of a small group within that community. However, we are perfectly entitled, and it is entirely appropriate, to ask specific questions about what has happened, given the very understandable public interest in the matter.

I might be a bit more simple and direct in my line of questioning in the hope that we get through this more easily. I ask quite straightforwardly: who made the decision to house Isla Bryson in the female estate?

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

Therefore, given the current policy and any future changes, as that individual is no longer in that location, were you in effect overruled by Scottish ministers on a decision that you were ultimately in charge of?

Criminal Justice Committee

Priorities in the Justice Sector and an Action Plan

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

I am looking for clarity on funding and on whether they would be a feature of every institution.

Criminal Justice Committee

Transgender Prisoners and Scottish Prisons

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Jamie Greene

The current position is that no transgender offender who has been convicted of a crime of violence or sexual violence against women or girls will be placed in a female prison. I presume that those who commit other types of violence and domestic abuse are not currently and will never be held in the female estate. Is that something on which you can give assurances, or is that a temporary measure?