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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

When you say that you believe that the recommendations could have gone further, what do you mean by that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

My point is that, presumably, by default, as the chair, you are the person to whom, ultimately, all lines lead, given the wide remit. Forgive me if I am wrong, but it sounds as though you are not taking responsibility for any of the failures that have been identified in the Audit Scotland report. If I am wrong, and you are, which of them do you take responsibility for?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

I am asking which of the issues identified by the Audit General you personally take responsibility for.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

I will rephrase the question. Do you think that, ultimately, ministers are in charge of delivery? You have not specifically and overtly said that in your responses.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Thank you.

10:32

Meeting suspended.

10:35

On resuming—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Good morning, everyone. I welcome you to the third meeting in 2026 of the Public Audit Committee. We have received apologies this morning from our convener, Richard Leonard—as deputy convener, I will deputise for him. We have also received apologies from Joe FitzPatrick, who is unable to join us. We are small but still quorate in number, and we have a lot of business to get through.

Agenda item 1 is to decide whether the committee will take items 4, 5 and 6 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Thank you. You alluded to having observed our last evidence session on this subject on 10 December. Some of your colleagues from The Promise Scotland, along with representatives of the Scottish Government and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, were witnesses on the panel. They were asked whether they whole-heartedly accepted all recommendations contained in the Audit Scotland report. For clarification, do you whole-heartedly accept those recommendations?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

To be clear, do you mean that the report could have gone further in its recommendations or in the work that was undertaken?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

You will be aware that, at the previous evidence session on the Promise, I asked the witnesses, which included representatives from the Scottish Government and COSLA, and your colleagues from the Promise, whether they believed that we were on track to meet the Promise, and the answer was unanimously that we are not. Given that you have been in charge of the Promise for nine years and, prior to that, were involved in its development, do you accept any responsibility for that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

The report was fairly critical, though, was it not? The Auditor General highlighted a number of key issues where progress was not being made, which is the point of a performance audit. Among other issues, he talked about governance and accountability, data, measuring and reporting, the resources that would be required, the governance frameworks and the clear lack of lines of accountability and oversight. It was a robust report, to say the least. The Auditor General is identifying that things are not going so well. You say that we are halfway through the delivery period for the Promise. It is not really a good sign, is it?