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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

That is helpful. We can pose those questions to the Government in due course, based on your helpful feedback.

I also want to look briefly at social care. Adam, I was quite taken by your example. It is one of many such examples that members hear, particularly from our casework, of people being unable to access care packages. You mentioned the availability of staff. That is certainly an issue, but there are also issues around the amount of funding that is available at the local level, in councils, for packages. We have heard that, if someone is unlucky enough to be a patient between January and March, and if the money has run out, they are more likely to be stuck in hospital until the beginning of the new financial year, when the money is unlocked. Is there any evidence of that happening?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Are you confident that there is still a national charge towards meeting this objective?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Finally, Auditor General, you have made a number of recommendations in your report, which we can read in black and white—or blue and blue, as they are. What is your overarching message that will prevent us from sitting here, discussing this in 20 years’ time?

I—or you, Auditor General—might not be sitting here in 20 years’ time, but there is a shared desire that the issue does not go on for another 20 years, because we cannot afford the financial or human cost of its doing so. What is your overarching message for stakeholders to take heed of, so that we can avoid that being the case?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Welcome back, committee members. Agenda item 3 is consideration of the report, “Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and the briefing, “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”, which have been submitted to us by Audit Scotland.

I welcome our witnesses: Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General for Scotland; Carol Calder, audit director at Audit Scotland; and Adam—forgive me; perhaps you can help me out with the pronunciation of your surname.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Do you think that delayed discharges can ever be eliminated, or is that an impossible ambition? Delayed discharges can be reduced, for sure; there is clearly evidence that that can happen when approaches work well. Carol Calder spoke about some examples of good practice. Nevertheless, while the level of delayed discharges can be reduced, they can never truly be eliminated. Are we, therefore, just setting ourselves up for failure in trying to fix the problem? Is it simply baked into the processes of the entire health and social care system?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Yes—that has been well iterated in your report.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Can you clarify whether all boards are signed up to—was 11 the number that you mentioned earlier?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Yes. Is it 11 boards that are signed up to that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

That is very much appreciated, Auditor General.

On that note, we will conclude this item. It remains for me to thank you, Mr Boyle, Auditor General, as well as Adam Bullough, Malcolm Bell and Carol Calder for joining us and giving us evidence, which we have found extremely helpful. The committee and future committees will, no doubt, take a close interest in the issue. We also look forward to the Accounts Commission’s report on integration authorities, which is due out soon.

I now move the meeting into private session.

11:41

Meeting continued in private until 12:07.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Mr Bullough is an audit manager at Audit Scotland.

We also have with us Malcolm Bell—that is much easier to pronounce—who is a member of the Accounts Commission for Scotland.

You are all very welcome. I apologise that the committee is small in number today, but we will nonetheless do our best to have a good conversation about your report, Auditor General. I believe that, before you take questions, you would like to make an opening statement.