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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Liam Kerr

Debbie Jupp, do you have anything to add?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Liam Kerr

I have a question for Agnes Tolmie. I was intrigued by Pauline McNeill’s line of questioning on the unintended consequences of a register, and there is a thought in my mind that I would like you to clear up for me.

Let us say that we have a victim who is being abused and who reports that. If the partner was prosecuted, they would go on the proposed register, as would happen—as we have seen from our papers—with the sex offenders register. However, this register is different, because the victim might well take the partner back. You will tell me if I am wrong, but I think that that happens in more cases than not. The perpetrator would be on a register, and the victim would have put him there through her report. I presume that there would be a risk that the perpetrator could use that against her—“Look what you did to me.” As you said earlier, it could “make him madder”. If all that played through, would there be a risk of the victim being less likely to report the domestic abuse, as a function of the register being brought in?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Liam Kerr

Good morning. I have a question for Colin Brown on a not unrelated point. When the committee heard from the SFRS on the service delivery review, the SFRS made it clear that the review and the decisions in that regard were not driven by budgetary concerns. In your written submission, you disagree with that. On that basis, do you conclude that, had different budgetary decisions been taken by the Scottish Government in relation to funding, the service delivery review would have come to different conclusions, and, if so, in what way would they have been different?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Liam Kerr

Thank you—that was clear. As we are talking about stations and the estate, the delivery review proposes to close eight stations that are described as “long-term dormant”, six of which have been non-operational since before 2016 and five of which are not staffed. Do you agree with the proposal? Given the situation, are you comfortable with that?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Liam Kerr

You mentioned the second busiest station in Scotland. Just for the record, which station is that?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Liam Kerr

Dr Scott, I will stay with you for a follow-up question but I will pose the same question to Debbie Jupp straight afterwards. In your opening remarks, you talked about whether the measures that are set out in the bill will help to reduce domestic violence. In our papers, the argument is made that much of the point of having a register is deterrence, such that perpetrators might think twice because they might end up on a register. If someone is a perpetrator of domestic violence and know that they could face the full force of law and be convicted for it, and yet they still do it despite the risk of criminalisation, will a register really deter them?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Liam Kerr

I understand.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Liam Kerr

I will turn to Tumay Forster first. It is proposed that the bill would apply to offenders who are convicted on indictment of an offence involving domestic abuse. My understanding is that the majority of cases go through the summary court system. If that is right, does such a distinction risk sending a message that there are two tiers of domestic abuse, rather than saying, “All domestic abuse is wrong”?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

Good morning. According to the policy memorandum, the aim of the bill is to reduce the number of people in prostitution and reduce the impact on those who are, or have been, in prostitution. The committee has heard differing views and has been presented with differing evidence, as to whether the provisions in the bill as it is currently drafted will or will not achieve a reduction in prostitution. Do you maintain that the bill’s provisions will achieve the ends as set out in the policy memorandum? If so, can you help the committee understand why we should prefer that line of evidence, and reject the alternative?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

I understand the point that the cabinet secretary is making, but the process feels uncomfortable, particularly in the context of this week, when we are addressing legislation that was fundamentally flawed when it was passed by the Parliament, even after full scrutiny. That is something that concerns me more widely, so I make that point.

On the SSI that is before us, we have received submissions—from the likes of Victim Support Scotland—which, as ever, have been very helpful. Based on that, I will put a couple of questions to you. Will prisoners in the cases concerned be included in the victim notification scheme? If so, what information will be available to the eligible victims?