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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Liam Kerr

Presumably it is too early to know exactly what the implications of the £13 million shortfall are. Is that right?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Liam Kerr

To be clear, because we are facing an imminent election and there will be a new Government, you are saying that, if the funding that is set out in the Scottish spending review comes to pass, your service may need to lose 780 firefighters. Is that correct?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Liam Kerr

I am grateful for that clarity, as much as anything. What you say begs an equivalent question about capital funding. The budget provides capital funding of £48.4 million, which is nearly £13 million less than the £61 million that you told us was needed in pre-budget evidence. How will that shortfall impact on your capital spending?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Liam Kerr

Good morning. Stuart Stevens, you were asked about the impact of the budget and the spending review on reform. I will take it back to the current position, as I did earlier. On resource funding, the 2026-27 budget offering is about £15 million less than you said that you were seeking when you provided evidence during the committee’s pre-budget scrutiny. What will the impact of that shortfall be on current provision? Mhairi Wylie spoke about the whole system, the safety aspect for your firefighters and the community work. Will there be an impact on any of that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Liam Kerr

I will come at the convener’s question from another angle. Colin, you mentioned in your opening remarks the Scottish spending review, which was published last month. The spending review sets out the Government’s portfolio plans up to 2028-29, with an additional year for capital. The proposed funding for the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service in 2027-28 and 2028-29 is very similar to that for 2026-27. The SFRS has described it as “flat cash” and suggested that, if that is to be the case, choices will have to be made in order to

“balance risk and compliance … against workforce impacts.”

I will throw you an open question. If what is set out in the spending review comes to pass and those figures are reflected in future budgets, what implications will that have for the service that you provide?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Liam Kerr

Good morning. For my first question, Pam Gosal, I would like to go back to the convener’s original question, just to drill into something.

The University of Essex research into a register for domestic abuse and stalking offences in England and Wales concluded that

“it seems evident that a register alone is unlikely to bring significant improvements in the criminal justice system’s response to high risk and serial domestic abuse and stalking perpetrators”.

Can you produce evidence that counters that assertion?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Liam Kerr

Yes, but we need evidence that it would work. The problem that the committee has is that we have heard evidence that it would not work, but I take your point about the study. If it has not been submitted already, perhaps you could send that to us.

I see that you might want to come back in. Let me ask a further question and then you could address the first point. We have also had evidence that the definition that is used in your bill of domestic abuse offenders does not capture the totality of risk. It might create a two-tier system for domestic abuse offenders, and it might be lead to an inconsistent definition of domestic abuse in Scotland. What is your response to that evidence?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Liam Kerr

I will press you on that, because it is important and I want to give you the best chance to counter what the committee has heard. The question that I put to you was that we have had evidence that there might be serious unintended consequences if your bill was to pass. We can all see that the bill has the best of intentions, but we have heard evidence that it might have serious unintended consequences, so I want to give you the opportunity to say whether you can give the committee any evidence that those unintended consequences will not come to pass and that, if the bill’s provisions are brought in, the reverse will happen and the hoped-for consequences will come to pass.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Liam Kerr

My final question is on something that I have asked about in previous weeks. The committee has heard that there might be unintended consequences if the bill passes. For example, victims might have a false sense of security, there might be fewer guilty pleas and there might be an increase in disputes in trials about sensitive information. In particular, there might be an increased risk of retaliation, given that a victim might stay with their partner following their conviction. The committee will be worried about that. Can you produce evidence to counter those concerns?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful.