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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 February 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

I understand—thank you.

Dr Fletcher, I have a similar question. Does the financial memorandum take sufficient account of the costs to the NHS of supporting the reviews and implementing any recommendations?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

Thank you. Graeme Simpson, feel free to answer the finance point in your response, but I also want to ask you about the Social Work Scotland submission, which suggests that there has been a lack of “consultation with key stakeholders” in developing the model. Is a lack of consultation widespread across many key organisations? Do you have a view on what might have been different in the model had consultation taken place?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

Good morning. Dr Scott, you have just raised some concerns, but I am not sure that I heard you talk about the finances. As you will know well, the committee has been concerned about laws being brought in without sufficient backing to implement or deliver on admirable intentions. You say, rightly, that your organisations are the experts. It has been suggested that, due to a lack of funding, some organisations that are involved in preventing domestic abuse might struggle to support the reviews or to implement any recommendations that are being brought in by the bill. Do you share that concern, and do you have a view on the finances that are allocated to the bill?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful.

Fiona Drouet, I ask you the same question about finances.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

Dr Scott, Rona Mackay asked you about the definitions in section 9. Let us assume that we do not import the definitions from the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018. In your written submission, you expressed concern about the definitions of “child” and “young person” that are used in the bill. For the record, will you articulate your concern and what you would like the committee to do in relation to those definitions?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

You have both made powerful points.

Dr Scott, you said earlier that the process so far has been pretty good. However, given the concerns that both witnesses have just raised about the finances, has your organisation had an opportunity to raise directly with the Government those financial concerns, as well as any other concerns about the timescales for implementing the legislation?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

I put the same question to Fiona Drouet. Are you and your organisation being listened to by the Scottish Government on funding and timescales?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

I am grateful to you both.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

Katie Brown, you spoke in your opening remarks about funding and resources, and the helpful submission from COSLA raised that as a specific issue, saying that there is a

“Chronic lack of capacity in and underfunding of VAWG services”

by the Scottish Government and that the financial memorandum needs more work in relation to the costs to local authorities of implementing the bill.

Do you worry that the figures in the financial memorandum are insufficient to implement the bill properly and action any recommendations from reviews? What do those figures need to be?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Liam Kerr

Yes. I am grateful to you all.