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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand. Unless Stuart Garrett has a different experience that he wants to comment on, I will stay with Robbie Drummond for a final question.

Robbie, you mentioned that the Clyde and Hebrides ferry services contract will be up in October 2024. Are you already in discussions with Transport Scotland about what will happen after that date? If so, where are those discussions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Robbie, is that your experience?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Out of interest, how long does that process take? When you submit a request, what is the window for it to be approved?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand—thank you. My final question is also to Robbie Drummond. Monica Lennon asked earlier about crew. Can you tell the committee which company employs the crew? Does CalMac—your company—employ the crew, or is it another company that does so?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand. So that the committee fully understands, Transport Scotland contracts with your CalMac, which then subcontracts to Caledonian MacBrayne Crewing (Guernsey) Ltd for the provision of crew. If that is right, does Caledonian MacBrayne Crewing (Guernsey) Ltd have any other clients?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

But you did not ask that question during the process.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Good morning. I have a couple of questions. Harald, the four main private operators in Norway own or lease their vessels to fulfil the contract obligations that we have heard about. How do those ferry operators procure their ferries, and who decides the precise specifications—the size, the crew complements and so on—that will be procured and ultimately used?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Councillor Robertson, Russell McCutcheon just brought up the point about infrastructure at ports. The committee has heard thoughts on the current ownership and operation of our ports and harbours. Do you have a view on who is best placed to own and operate the ports and harbours that are used by CalMac, especially given the thoughts in your submission around designing ferries to be compatible with harbours?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Minister, forgive me. You talked about labelling, for example. My understanding is that there is still some ambiguity over what labels might have to look like. My question, therefore, is this: is it not better to deal with things such as those ambiguities, rather than address the fines that will be levied when you have not even done the up-front basics of sorting out ambiguities such as labelling?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Minister, you mentioned labelling. I am simply pointing out that there are ambiguities about the scheme, yet you are giving time to dealing with enforcement and fines. Are you going to respond to that point, or shall I move on to another question?