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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

My question was whether there will be the required impact on consumers by this winter, which is when we need the impact.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

But what are you doing?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

My final question is for Teresa Bray. A recent report by the Existing Homes Alliance suggests that—I am paraphrasing, so correct me if I am reflecting it wrongly—people are concerned that, if they install a heat pump, they will then see a district heating system coming down the track and think, “I’ve invested £20,000 when I could have waited.” As a result, they are reticent to make such an investment. If what I have said is a correct reflection of your report, how can those uncertainties be addressed? Do you see a role for local authorities in that regard?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

Earlier, you called for targeted support from the UK Government, but, of course, the VAT cut or the windfall tax that you mentioned would not be targeted. The committee has heard that fuel poverty and domestic policy in this area are devolved, and your solution is to get money into people’s pockets. In 2021, you had a fiscal transfer of £12 billion, which is about £2,210 extra per person in Scotland. Given that you disagree with a wait-and-see approach, what is your Government doing with that extra money to get money into people’s pockets?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

Cabinet secretary, you said right at the start of this evidence session that cross-departmental work is being done to recognise the crisis. I have recently seen reports of a number of civil servants in the Scottish Government being assigned to specific projects. Can you tell the committee how many civil servants have been specifically assigned to fuel poverty alleviation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

I actually talked about “the Scottish Government programmes”. However, I think that you have answered the question, and I am aware that we are tight for time, so I will move on to ask about a similar programme.

The UK Government, which you have mentioned several times, is looking to expand and extend its warm home discount scheme, which would help 280,000 Scottish households with their energy bills. The UK Government is going to put an extra £13 million into that. Is the Scottish Government doing something similar to help Scottish people with their energy bills?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

Good morning. To get into a couple of specific issues, I will go back to a question that the convener asked. Roger Curtis said that the rough cost of retrofitting a property is £20,000. Teresa Bray followed that by conceding the convener’s point that, if retrofitting is not done, there could be a drop in house price. She suggested that a blip in the property market would be beneficial. I counter that by saying that a blip would not be beneficial for people who have bought their house but who do not have £20,000 or the time to retrofit. They could end up in negative equity. How can people who are in that situation be persuaded to retrofit?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

To reflect that back, I think that that means that the current programmes will not deliver consumer savings to the ambition that is required by this winter. You can come back on that point if you want, cabinet secretary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Liam Kerr

I want to briefly follow up on the answers that two of you gave to Jackie Dunbar in relation to tenements. Replacing a window might be the best thing to do, but that is not cheap. Even replacing just one window is not cheap. Again, the question seems to be: who pays for that? People who have bought, say, a two-bedroom flat will not necessarily be fuel poor, but, equally, they will not be able to spend £20,000 to put in a new window or to put stuff in the walls to insulate the property. Who should pay for that?