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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I would like to go back to collections and space, which is an issue that Jackie Dunbar asked about earlier. What do you advise smaller or rural retailers to do if particularly large deposits come back or there is a local event and their space gets overfilled? What is the contingency plan if a more frequent uplift is needed than that of the usual collection schedule? What should those retailers do?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I am grateful for that response.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I want clarification of something that was mentioned earlier. I will put this to Scott Mathieson and then Aileen McLeod. Scott talked about regulatory frameworks. My understanding is that Ofgem will set price controls that will regulate how much Scottish Power and SSE can spend on investment and innovation during a particular period. I understand that both transmission and distribution are in the regulated periods until 2028. What scope is there to alter your investment plans in response to changing circumstances, changing technologies and changing priorities during those regulated periods?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I am grateful. Aileen, would you like to add to that, or is your answer similar?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I turn to Clare Lavelle. That answer was interesting, but it did not answer the question that I posed. When does green hydrogen, solar or any other renewable technology get to such a point that we can generate non-intermittent energy such that we have no further need for nuclear-generated energy or oil and gas-generated energy?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Good morning, panel. I will throw this question to Tom Quinn initially. It is about baseload and non-intermittent generation.

In Scotland, nuclear-generated energy is due to finish by 2030, I think. The draft energy strategy says that there will no new oil and gas exploration and production. Where do you think the non-intermittent generation will come from? I saw that, on 17 March, Torness was producing 42 per cent of the electricity produced in Scotland. When do you think that that replacement will happen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

For my next question, I go back to what Clare Lavelle and Tom Quinn said about the import risks of blue hydrogen. Clare, your submission talks authoritatively about blue hydrogen and CCUS, highlighting their role in the transition for the oil and gas industry, but you also note that imports of gas

“will increase ... if reliance on gas does not reduce”,

and then you refer to

“significant risks to security of supply in an increasingly volatile geopolitical environment.”

If we accept that demand for power in the United Kingdom is likely to remain high for some time, and might even increase, given certain choices that we make, should this aspect of the energy strategy—the presumption against exploration—be reviewed, not only for the sake of energy security but to ensure the development of, say, hydrogen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand. I am grateful, thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I have a final question for Emily Rice. Clare Lavelle rightly mentioned the Climate Change Committee. It has said, among many interesting things, that there will be more frequent and more intense weather events as we become more dependent on renewable energy generation. Do you think that, if we put so much development and time into renewable technologies such as solar and move away from things such as nuclear energy and North Sea oil and gas, we will be increasingly subject to the risks that the Climate Change Committee has warned us of and that our energy security will be threatened?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Picking up on the last point that Stuart Haszeldine made, I note that the draft energy strategy has a presumption against new oil and gas exploration while, at the same time, committing to developing a Scottish carbon capture use and storage cluster. Given the key role that the North Sea fossil fuel companies will play in developing skills and funding CCUS and other renewables, is there, in your view, a risk that the draft strategy’s positioning might hinder development of a Scottish cluster, to say nothing of other renewables such as hydrogen?