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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Colin Smyth

You said that there is a need to look at the powers, as well as the resource issue. How would you change the powers?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Colin Smyth

I thank the witnesses for sharing their views. I will go back to Derek Shaw on the point about Scottish Enterprise’s role being different from that of his colleagues in Highlands and Islands Enterprise and South of Scotland Enterprise. Douglas Cowan said that Highlands and Islands Enterprise has always had a community remit. Bryan McGrath will know that I spent many years calling for a similar arrangement in the south of Scotland, because I was struck by the fact that a business in Inverness town centre could receive support but a similar business in Dumfries could not receive such support. Now it can, because we have South of Scotland Enterprise.

The challenge now is that a business in Ayr cannot get the same support as a business in Dumfries because of Scottish Enterprise’s remit. Does that put Scottish Enterprise at a disadvantage when it comes to providing support for town centre businesses?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Colin Smyth

We have heard about the town centre living fund before. It is a good idea and is of huge benefit.

Mr Lindsay, do your powers go far enough? Mr Rogers said that you can take action when a building is dangerous, but is it fair to say that not a great deal can be done in other cases, even when there are trees growing through the windows or the windows are not even there, unless it is a listed building. Should the powers be strengthened?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Colin Smyth

Are councils sometimes reluctant to use the powers because, once they start, to be frank, it will draw on their resources?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Colin Smyth

That is very helpful. On that point, Douglas Cowan, SOSE is very clear that the funding is linked to working with it so that it is financially viable. Does Highlands and Islands Enterprise take the view that even though those projects are obviously going to make lots of money, like SOSE, you link the funding to being able to make sure the project has a plan to deliver that financial viability?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Colin Smyth

An issue that has been raised extensively with the committee is the challenge of derelict buildings in our town centres. The committee visited Midsteeple Quarter in Dumfries recently, and our visit coincided with a certain street in the town being closed because a building on it had been deemed to be dangerous. It had been derelict for some years and it became so dangerous that the street had to be closed off. Craig Iles will not need me to tell him about a certain building in the centre of Ayr—the former Station hotel—that was closed because it was dangerous. That disrupted rail services in the town for months.

Something has clearly gone wrong when it comes to the action that we can take to prevent buildings in our town centres from falling into such a state of disrepair. Starting with Mr Rogers, will you tell us what you think has gone wrong? Do councils not have the powers or the funding that they need, or are they too slow to use their powers at an early stage to avoid town centre buildings getting to a point when they are closed because they are dangerous, with all the disruption that goes with that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Colin Smyth

It is just a general point. You do not support projects that have a more community-directed remit.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Colin Smyth

I want to follow up on Michelle Thomson’s questions about the ownership of properties in our town centres. Derelict properties are a big issue for us that people constantly raise. I will bring in Allison Orr first of all. Absent landlords—Martin Avila mentioned such ownership—can often ask for unrealistic rents, or unrealistic prices for the sale of their properties.

Recently, we visited the Midsteeple Quarter in Dumfries, which is my home town. One of the properties that the project was interested in probably had a value of about £100,000, but it was sold a few years ago for £700,000 and the owners were still asking for an astronomical fee. Why do pension funds and others hold on to properties that are clearly declining in value? What do we need to do to, in effect, wrestle the properties off them or ensure that they bring derelict properties up to a suitable standard so that they are habitable?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Colin Smyth

What is the incentive for an overseas investor to hold on to a property that is sitting empty and derelict on the high street?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 18 May 2022

Colin Smyth

What is the barrier to having more community ownership in town centres at the moment? Is it access to funding or—