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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Our next item of business is our third evidence session on the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill.

We will hear from two panels, and I am delighted to welcome our first panel: Stacey Dingwall, head of policy and external affairs at the Federation of Small Businesses Scotland; Matt Pearce, board member at the Development Trusts Association Scotland; Adrian Sargent, chief executive officer of Castle Community Bank; and—joining us online—Morven Taylor, acting chief executive officer of Communities Housing Trust.

As always, I appeal to members and witnesses to keep questions and answers as concise as possible. I ask the deputy convener to kick off the questions.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

That is interesting. I will bring in Daniel Johnson.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I bring in Lorna Slater.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I will pick up on one of those points, Gail Macgregor, you noted the concerns around procurement thresholds. Is that something that COSLA feels that the bill could try to tackle by ensuring greater flexibility or perhaps just mandating economic impact considerations with regard to procurement? Would that strengthen your ability to support SMEs more in local areas? Do you see the bill as an opportunity to amend some of that stuff on procurement?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Thank you. I will now bring in Murdo Fraser.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

That is useful. I am sure that I will make a submission to Dumfries and Galloway Council’s review of its mothballing policy in due course—

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

You will be pleased to know that that brings us to the end of our evidence session. I thank our witnesses very much. It has been a fascinating discussion and, more significantly, it has been really helpful in our consideration of the bill. Thank you so much indeed for your input.

I suspend the meeting for a changeover of witnesses.

10:56 Meeting suspended.  

11:01 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I will turn to a point from your submission. On rural aspects, you said:

“There is a view from some of our members that unintended consequences could be more likely in rural areas”.

Will you expand on those concerns from some of your members?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Our final evidence session will be with the minister, next week, and we will compile our report after that. Thank you so much.

11:45 Meeting continued in private until 12:26.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Our fundamental concern is what may change in the bill. On that point, should there be a duty in the bill, for example, for anchor organisations to co-design their action plan? Should that be specified in the bill?