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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Okay. It was just the term that you used. I wanted to give you the chance to explain what you have just explained.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Finally, is everyone in favour of legal representation for victims?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Thank you.

You also said that the jury is not there to find the truth, that it is for the legal system to prove the offence and that, if it does not, it is a failing of the Crown. Do you understand why victims feel crushed and let down by a not proven verdict? They feel that the system is weighted against them and in favour of the accused, for the reasons that you have outlined. Many witnesses have said to us that they would much rather have had a not guilty verdict than a not proven verdict, because they are left in limbo.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Why would that be? I know that that must be laid down somewhere, but do you think that it is fair that nobody knows?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Obviously, it is not to identify people, but even having the numbers would be at least some information.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

I have a short supplementary question on the conviction rate in sexual offence cases. Laura, will the Lord Advocate’s recent ruling that distress can be used as evidence have an impact on the conviction rates?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rona Mackay

Thank you. That is helpful.

Meeting of the Parliament

Universal Declaration of Human Rights (75th Anniversary)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Rona Mackay

I thank my friend and colleague Kaukab Stewart for bringing this debate to the Parliament and congratulate her on her long-standing commitment to upholding human rights for all. I am delighted to take part in the debate.

On 10 December 1948, the general assembly of the United Nations announced the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which sets out 30 rights and freedoms that belong to all of us. As we observe the world that we live in today, with war, poverty, famine and injustice, it is plain that, for far too many people, those rights are not being upheld. However, seven decades on, those rights continue to form the basis for all international human rights law and are a vital code that we should follow in a civilised society, because without that, people have no protection and no access to justice, and more misery and cruelty will ensue.

The 75th anniversary of the declaration is an opportunity for the Scottish Parliament to reaffirm its commitment to furthering human rights protections for everyone in Scotland. The Scottish Government’s aim is to create a legal framework for us to embed international human rights within domestic law and drive transformative and positive change for people, empowering them to claim their rights. Last week, we passed landmark legislation to incorporate the rights of the child under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child in everything that we do. In my book, that was a great day to be in Scotland’s Parliament, exercising our duty as elected members to bring forward that vital legislation, which has long been fought for by campaigners and third sector organisations, to benefit all children and young people in Scotland.

People in Scotland face challenges to their human rights every day, whether those relate to gender-based violence, disability, race or religion. We must promote equality and eliminate bigotry and discrimination, because they are an attack on all of us. Every day, we as MSPs try to help constituents to gain access to their basic rights in social care, to safe and secure housing, or to essential healthcare.

The human rights bill that is proposed for introduction by June next year will be a momentous occasion for our nation. We should, of course, learn from the problems that have been encountered with the induction of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill. We should possibly establish an implementation programme that is similar to that which has accompanied the passage of that bill, and minimise any reliance on UK acts.

We have amazing organisations that have been at the forefront of protecting human rights for decades. One such organisation is Amnesty International. It reminds us that we need only look to the very recent UK Supreme Court judgment on the UK Government’s Rwanda deal, which drew attention to that country’s terrible human rights record, to see that human rights defenders face dangerous challenges. Speeches in our earlier debate powerfully highlighted the abuse that asylum seekers face.

The 75th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a chance to pay homage to those who used their power during struggles for liberation and equality the world over. Their struggle was against colonialism and bigotry, and for equality; against patriarchy, and for gender justice; and for a world of greater dignity for all members of the human family.

Scotland has an opportunity to show leadership, and 2024 will be a year for politicians of all parties to take the next step in making human rights a reality in Scotland by supporting a new human rights bill. The legislation has the potential to be transformative for people in Scotland by obligating public bodies to uphold a much wider range of rights. Our overarching priority is to ensure that incorporation is led by, and results in, tangible improvements for individuals and communities—especially those who face the greatest barriers to the enjoyment of rights and those whose rights are most at risk.

Scotland is a compassionate and caring nation. Human rights have always been at the forefront of our society, and we now have the opportunity to build on that.

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Meeting of the Parliament

Universal Declaration of Human Rights (75th Anniversary)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Rona Mackay

I am struggling to understand the relevance to the motion of what the member is saying. I am sorry, but it is, frankly, bizarre.