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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Good morning. My first question is for Phillip Chapman. Witnesses have raised with us the time taken to complete investigations and the lack of transparency in the system. One witness said that the system does not work for police officers or for members of the public. Do you think that the bill does enough to address the issue of lengthy timescales and the problems associated with that? Perhaps you could explain your thinking on that and say whether you think that things are going to improve, because we heard that that was definitely a problem.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

I understand what you are saying. Is there a way that the process could be streamlined? That is what I am trying to get at. Is there any one thing that could happen that would be helpful to you, to witnesses and to complainers?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Did you say 19 days?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Therefore, your workload has increased considerably since the Angiolini review. Did you take on more staff to deal with that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Thank you for that.

Sharon Clelland, are non-disclosure agreements routinely used in your work?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

That is fine. His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland already has responsibility for reviewing the policies and practice of Police Scotland and the Scottish Police Authority and to co-ordinate that with the PIRC. Do you think that that whole arrangement is working well? Does anything need to be done legislatively to improve that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

What is the SPA’s role in that? Do you interact much with it? Where does it fit into the picture?

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Rona Mackay

The UK-wide use of the tainted Horizon computer system evidence was the decision of the Post Office. As such, does the cabinet secretary share my concern that the recent coverage makes it clear that, during the past number of years, those at the top of the Post Office repeatedly obscured and provided misleading information?

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2024

Rona Mackay

Mr Kennedy, I was interested in your response to the convener’s questions about duty of candour. I do not know whether you are aware of the evidence that we have heard in the past few weeks. I would like to turn the dial back to the experience of police under disciplinary procedures and the public. Quite honestly, that evidence was pretty shocking.

You are on record as saying that you do not think that there is a need for the bill. How does that square with what we have heard? I appreciate that it is a minority of officers who were involved in some of the things that we have heard, but are there no aspects of the bill that could be used to improve the experience of victims and witnesses?