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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Independent Review of Sentencing and Penal Policy

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Per capita, Scotland has one of the highest prison populations in western Europe. We are simply locking up too many people, and that cannot continue. I welcome the Scottish Government’s action to establish a review of sentencing and penal policy to consider the most effective ways to address offending behaviour and lower the number of victims. I am extremely pleased that, as we have heard, it will be chaired by Martyn Evans, the former chair of the Scottish Police Authority, who will be supported by five expert commissioners. The panel will examine how imprisonment and community-based interventions are currently used in Scotland. It is clear that we need to look at alternatives to custody. The Scottish National Party Government’s commitment to strengthening community justice services by investing £159 million in 2025-26 reaffirms that.

Scotland is not alone in facing the challenge of prison overcrowding. The previous and current UK Governments have taken action to respond to the rising prison population in similar ways. Interestingly, the recently published Gauke review, which Liam McArthur mentioned and which was conducted by a former Tory minister, highlighted an increased prison population in England and Wales despite a reducing crime rate. Like Scotland, the UK has embarked on the early release of prisoners when it is safe and appropriate to do so to alleviate overcrowding.

Protecting victims and the public from harm is the absolute priority. Prison will always be necessary; for some offenders, it is essential. However, I question whether prison is the best place for many who are sent there. As convener of the cross-party group on women, families and justice, I am aware of how damaging incarceration is to families and children, and it often does nothing to rehabilitate the offender. We know that short prison sentences are often not the best way to reduce reoffending. Community-based interventions are more effective in doing that and in assisting with rehabilitation. Ultimately, that leads to fewer victims and safer communities.

There are far too many women in custody and on remand. In January this year, 330 women were incarcerated, and about 30 per cent of them were on remand. I agree with Jamie Greene’s and Pauline McNeill’s comments about remand, although I am not sure how it would be possible to have no one on remand. We have to tackle that issue.

It is estimated that as many as 90 per cent of women in custody in Scotland have addiction problems with alcohol or drugs. It is further estimated that 80 per cent of women in prison have brain damage due to head injuries caused by domestic violence, and that a similar number of women suffer mental illness to some degree. Prison is no place for women whose addiction and chaotic life experiences have led them down the wrong path. They need holistic help, because no one chooses that lifestyle.

Scotland’s amazing third sector organisations do an incredible job of helping people in a holistic and trauma-informed way when they leave prison. For many people, particularly women, they are a lifeline and are essential to getting them back on track, but, sadly, the damage to families and children has often already been done. The new women’s custody units in Glasgow and Dundee are a huge step in the right direction. They are designed to help women to move slowly back into a normal routine.

I am delighted that the Scottish Government is working with our justice partners to look at how we can offer alternatives to custody. We need to steer a better path and have confidence in alternative pathways. Prison should be the exception, not the rule.

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Meeting of the Parliament

Independent Review of Sentencing and Penal Policy

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Does the member recognise that England and Wales are going through exactly the same situation and have encountered exactly the same problem as we have, and are taking steps to address it?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Rona Mackay

It absolutely does. I want to ask you about when reviews are carried out in parallel with criminal proceedings and with regard to preventing prejudice. The Lord Advocate would have power to pause or end a review to prevent prejudice in those proceedings. How often and in what types of situations would that power be used?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Good morning. I will ask about the determination of when and whether to hold a review. Where there is a reviewable death, the oversight committee would still need to decide whether to hold the review. I guess that that would mean determining, for example, whether lessons could be learned from the situation.

Could you say a wee bit more about how that would work in practice? To get an idea of the context and scale of numbers, in what proportion of cases where there is a reviewable death do you anticipate a review being carried out?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Rona Mackay

It is encouraging to know that the review would be speeded up for the families involved. That would definitely help to comfort them.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Moving on to the subject of fiscal fines, is the Government content that the powers of the prosecution to offer fiscal fines have been appropriately used and that the ability to impose higher fiscal fines has not given rise to problems in relation to people’s ability to pay and so on?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Rona Mackay

I want to follow on from the convener’s question by asking about electronic signing of documents in criminal cases. That approach has been broadly supported and welcomed, but there has been a bit of discussion about the potential for digital exclusion in relation to some members of the public. Can you provide any reassurance in that respect to people who are not au fait with that technology?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Rona Mackay

That was helpful. Do you agree that victims should be informed when a case has been dealt with by way of a fiscal fine?

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

The Promise (Third Oversight Board Report)

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Keeping the Promise will require partners across Scotland to work together. The oversight board’s report says that

“local authorities”,

as corporate parents,

“play a critical role.”

How is the Scottish Government working with local government to drive progress?

Meeting of the Parliament

Grangemouth

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Can the First Minister advise when he expects project willow to publish its phase 1 report and what the next steps are in taking forward the options for transitioning the Grangemouth refinery site to a new low-carbon fuels hub? Given that the UK Government has instead made the perplexing decision to provide a loan to Petroineos to invest in a refinery in Belgium, how confident is the First Minister that the UK Government will step up and support those next steps?