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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 October 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Ben Macpherson

It is not our intention that there will be a particular impact on those who access social security. As I said, we have decided to consider the cost as an absorbed cost and pressure within the social security budget.

I do not know whether Dominic Mellan or Simon Coote wants to add anything that might be helpful and appropriate.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Ben Macpherson

As the member will know and as the finance secretary has emphasised many times to Parliament, there is significant pressure on Scottish budget portfolios in the coming financial year. As I have said, we have, in this instance, identified resource that we can absorb within our budget, and we are continually looking to see where we can use resource efficiently and for the benefit of the people of Scotland. Internally, we have had to work hard to identify this resource and make it available, and we are glad that we have been able to do so, but I am not going to—and I am not able to—specify at this point whether other resource will be available in the course of the financial year. As the member knows, the budget is allocated, and over the subsequent financial year we go through the process of reconciliations and reconsideration of positions. However, I emphasise that the Scottish Government, all ministers, including me and the Cabinet Secretary, and Social Security Scotland consistently look at what resource is available and how it can be utilised to help the people of Scotland, particularly low-income households and unpaid carers on social security.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Ben Macpherson

There is no loss of flexibility in that regard. We set a budget allocation on projections, which involves the Scottish Fiscal Commission. We also project based on the fact that we will be encouraging people to take up benefits. As you know from the Social Security (Scotland) Act 2018 and Scottish Government policy intention and documentation, we are strongly committed to promoting benefit take-up and undertaking what is necessary for that. We have had good discussions at the committee on how we collectively can all play our part in promoting benefit take-up. That becomes even more pertinent in the period ahead.

I call again on all members to work with the Government and the different public bodies involved in that collaborative effort to raise awareness in communities of what support is available, encourage people to apply if they think that they might be eligible and tell their friends and neighbours about it so that we can spread the word about what support exists. Some of the benefits that we will be promoting are ones that we intend to uprate by 6 per cent, as I have set out.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Ben Macpherson

I saw some of the previous session. I am happy to correspond with the committee on those important points that Mr Briggs raises. It is a question not only for social security ministers but for the finance portfolio, so there is a question about how the committee might want to consider those points.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Ben Macpherson

I am not fully clear on the specifics of your question, so I hope that this generic answer will suffice, but please let me know if you have any further points.

On cost of living support, Ms Forbes took action with regard to the council tax position just a number of weeks ago. We have the council tax reduction scheme, the Scottish welfare fund—which we are still making a significant investment in—and the mitigation that we are undertaking with regard to the bedroom tax, which costs us tens of millions of pounds a year, so there are a number of different measures already in place to support people as much as we can.

The devolved social security system that we have, which I know the whole committee supports, allows us to get money to people and into their pockets. That is the real advantage of having that system and we will continue to develop it in a coherent and strong way for the period ahead and for decades to come.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Ben Macpherson

Thank you, convener, and good morning, colleagues.

I offer my sincere thanks to the convener and the committee for accommodating the last-minute changes to the scrutiny process for the Social Security (Up-rating) (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2022, which we were intending to cover today, as the convener said.

The committee will be aware of the cost of living pressures, which have grown significantly since we took the decision on uprating benefits some time ago as part of the Scottish budget process. We know that those pressures might yet rise further and that they will disproportionately impact the poorest households. That is why I decided to see what more could be done to support people using our social security powers.

I am now seeking to use the uprating regulations to provide that additional support, which will primarily help low-income families and unpaid carers. In order to do that, it is necessary to withdraw the previous regulations and lay them again under expedited procedures, which I am doing today. Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience that that causes. However, I am sure that the committee will understand the reasons for that, and I sincerely hope that it will support the relaid regulations.

I understand that the committee will now consider those regulations on 31 March but, given the interest that the committee will have in them, it is worth broadly outlining the changes now. Of course, I am happy to come back later in the month if the committee wishes me to do so.

I am proposing additional support by further increasing several forms of devolved social security benefits and assistance from the previous 3.1 per cent increase to the 6 per cent rate. That will apply to the job start payment, the young carer grant and funeral support. Subject to parliamentary approval, uprating will now be almost doubled for those benefits.

The best start grant will also be increased by 6 per cent, and there will be future regulations to increase the carers allowance supplement. We will also increase child winter heating assistance by 6 per cent—greater than the 5 per cent already proposed—to support 19,000 families of severely disabled children with heating costs.

As the committee is aware, we have already taken the decision to double the Scottish child payment from £10 a week to £20 a week—a 100 per cent increase—which will immediately benefit about 111,000 children.

In August 2021, we increased the best start foods payment from £4.25 to £4.50 a week. That 5.88 per cent rise exceeds the rate of inflation and is close to the 6 per cent uprating for other benefits, so there will be no change to that benefit.

I turn to the immediate task at hand. Today, the committee is considering the Social Security Up-rating (Scotland) Order 2022, which uprates benefits for which we have executive competence but which are currently administered by the DWP under an agency agreement on Scottish ministers’ behalf. It is important to note that we have no discretion around the level of uprating of those benefits. The agency agreements that are in place with the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions that allow the DWP to deliver those benefits on behalf of Scottish ministers mean that we are committed to uprating them at the same rate as the DWP. They will therefore be uprated by 3.1 per cent, in line with the September consumer prices index. It is, however, a matter for the Scottish ministers to make an order to effect the uprating, which is what you see before you today.

I thank the committee again for its scrutiny of the uprating order and its forbearance, given the need for urgent changes to the uprating regulations. I look forward to any questions that the committee might have.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Ben Macpherson

Budgets always have a degree of flexibility. We will consider the cost pressures in the course of the financial year, but we feel that we can absorb a £2.7 million increase.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Ben Macpherson

As I said in my opening statement, the carers allowance supplement will be uprated by 6 per cent. In the period ahead, the Government will give on-going consideration to the carers allowance supplement additional payment, on which we passed additional legislation a number of months ago. I am sure that we will discuss that with the committee and in the chamber in the months ahead. However, I can confirm that the carers allowance supplement will be uprated by 6 per cent.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Ben Macpherson

There is nothing further from me. I hope that the information that officials and I have provided has covered the points that Ms Duncan-Glancy wished us to cover.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Ben Macpherson

From the perspective of someone who receives CDP, the process of applying for adult disability payment has been designed to minimise gaps in entitlement to ensure that it is as smooth as possible. In contrast to the current system, young people will be given significant flexibility in choosing when to apply for adult disability payment after their 16th birthday. A person’s child disability payment will stop only when a positive determination is made in relation to adult disability payment. If they do not receive any award of adult disability payment, their child disability payment will continue until their 18th birthday.

There will be that additional support, and a range of measures will be put in place to ensure that the process at that key transition point is as straightforward as possible. People will be able to access a single secure digital portal to apply for all forms of assistance, update information and check eligibility, and a local service delivery team will be there for in-person support. If young people need support with applying for adult disability payment, they will also be entitled to the support of our independent advocacy service, to which of course we are committing £20 million.

Considerations will be in place for those who are on child disability payment in their application for adult disability payment, as I have set out. I hope that that answers Mr Choudhury’s questions.