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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 February 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

The question is, that amendment 12 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

The result of the division is: For 5, Against 4, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 12 agreed to.

Amendment 58 moved—[Richard Leonard].

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

I will bring in Murdo Fraser.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

I have a brief supplementary. You mentioned glass making and cement works. It is my understanding that this is a question not just of the price of electricity, but of the fundamental technology for electric heating. The fact is that, in its current state, the technology is not sufficient to provide enough heat for those processes. Has there been sufficient effort to look at the fundamental technology, especially for those high-heat processes for which, right now, we do not have any practical, let alone cost-effective, alternatives? Do we need effort to be put into research and development, and does that need to be part of the plan?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

I believe that Richard Woolley would like to come in.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

I move to our witnesses from industry. I will ask a couple of more detailed questions about the role that hydrocarbons play in our industrial processes.

When I have done visits to industry, it has always struck me how reliant we are on gas for heating things—whether it be kilns for making cement or concrete; or, if I can pluck out the example of our whisky industry, for making glass bottles or heating stills. Yet, although electrification is mentioned in the document that is before us, in the annex—which is where the detail is meant to be—there are only two paragraphs on that subject, which take up less than a third of a page.

Is there sufficient focus here on how we can replace gas as a heat source for a broad range of uses, from concrete or steel to whisky? Given that whisky is Scotland’s biggest non-energy export, I will put that question to David Thomson first.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

I thank all the witnesses for their contributions over quite a sustained period—they have been incredibly useful. Given its scope, the draft climate change plan is an expansive document that encompasses a huge number of things, and that has been reflected in the length of our evidence session. The session has been hugely useful and very interesting, and you have all given the committee a lot to go away and think about.

12:21 Meeting continued in private until 12:32.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

That is very helpful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

Lorna Slater wants to ask a supplementary.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Daniel Johnson

Where is it happening? Is it happening where electricity-based cracking technology is cheaper than or priced competitively with gas-based cracking technology?