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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 December 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I have a final question. Lord Hodge referred to what we are talking about being analogous to some of the innovations that occurred in the 19th century. I am always fascinated by the way in which patent law develops; in a sense, that is attempting to provide legal constraints and controls for something that is even more ethereal than something electronic, which is ideas.

Is it fundamentally right that, in the bill, we consider the source of things such as electronic systems, by which I mean where they have emerged from? We have spent a long time this morning talking about the nature of the relationship involving the individual and a register. Would an alternative approach consider the rights and responsibilities that flow from the function of registration, rather than the essential source of the things and where they emerged from? With some of the innovations in the 19th century, the focus was more on the conditions in which the things operated, rather than the thing itself. I hope that that question is clear.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I assumed that that was the answer, but I thought I would ask the explicit question, just to be clear. With that, I hand over to my colleague Lorna Slater.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Yes. Like with the point about AI, there are a number of other questions to be asked. For the purposes of this morning, your answer to that particular question and your answers overall have been very useful and illuminating.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Of course.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Please do.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

Thank you.

Michelle Thomson, the deputy convener, has a brief supplementary.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

It is. I reiterate that, overall, this morning’s session has been incredibly useful. Are there any final points or issues that the committee should have alighted on or flagged in our questions? Again, I am mindful that we are all trying to grapple with this topic.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

With that, I thank Lord Hodge and Professor Fox for their time, insight and patience as the committee has sought to get up to speed with the topic. They have been incredibly helpful.

We move into private session for the committee to consider items 3, 4 and 5.

10:50 Meeting continued in private until 11:27.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

I will ask one final question before I hand over to my colleagues. I note that one of the specific recommendations in your report was that there should be clarification regarding trusts, given that it is common for such objects to be held or owned by trusts. On my reading of it, I was not clear that the bill provides that clarification. Are you happy that, given that the bill sets out that digital assets are property and, given that trusts are capable of owning property, they are covered? I want to ask for that clarification, as it was one thing that I noted in your report that I was not clear was in the bill.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Digital Assets (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Daniel Johnson

It is a very interesting topic, but I urge members to move on.