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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

It will be a challenge for the industry to adjust to that new standard, so, ultimately, the period enables that to happen.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

We have to strike a balance between the reductions that some would expect to see and the fish health element. We have to make sure that the previous standard is phased out in a realistic way that will not adversely impact fish health—while, of course, recognising the time needed to adjust. That is how the timescale was developed.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

We talked about the industry as a whole at the start of the session and went into great detail about the work that goes into an application, the licences that have to be received and the amount of modelling work that is undertaken to ensure that fish farms are operating within environmental limits. The fact that they have been granted their licence to operate means that they are very much operating on that basis.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Jill Barber will correct me if I am wrong, but I think that things have remained relatively consistent when we look at the overall mortality rates in the surveys that we have produced and at the survival targets over the past 20 years. I do not think that that detracts from the fact that we all want to tackle the serious issue of mortality as best we possibly can. As I have stated throughout my appearance before the committee this morning, it is not in anybody’s interests to see such high mortality levels.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I think that we are quite honest and transparent about where we are at, but I would disagree on some aspects. I think that we have to be optimistic about our ability to address these challenges. Equally, I do not think that we can be complacent and say that a 25 per cent rate of mortality is good, because it is not—we would want to see improvements in that respect. Industry would certainly want to see that situation improve—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

There are two separate issues in your question. One is about the presentation of the data, and I think that we absolutely need to do more work on how that information is presented and communicated. However, again, all the information is provided in an open and transparent manner.

The second issue is that of regulation, which comes back to what is proportionate. The industry representatives spoke about the various audits that are undertaken and how transparent that data has to be. Of course, records have to be kept, and there would be surveillance of that. We are confident in the information that is provided, but, if it transpired that there was a problem, we would look at that. However, again, any steps that we take with regard to regulation have to be proportionate.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Jane, having dealt with the process so far, do you want to go into more detail on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Again, we already have a suite of work under way. In the work that we have been doing with our fisheries management and conservation group, we generally try to take a bottom-up approach to managing our fisheries and ensuring that we work with our fishers and wider stakeholders as we implement changes.

In relation to the specific measure that you are talking about, there are specific things that we have to cover in a fisheries management plan. I am not aware that that area is being considered at the moment, and it is certainly not being put to me.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Yes, I would be happy to. I know that that was an area of concern that was raised by stakeholders in response to the committee’s call for evidence.

It made sense to do so, because Seafish has a wealth of expertise in that area. I believe that it has also assisted DEFRA in the preparation of some its fisheries management plans. For us, it makes sense to make best use of that expertise and knowledge to assist us in that work.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I would come back to the points that Jane MacPherson just made, which are really important in relation to all the different issues that you touched on.

FMPs will be a really useful tool for setting that out clearly and in a way that is open and transparent. As Jane said, and as we no doubt all glean from discussions and from the various appearances at committees before, managing our fisheries is complex. The more that we can do to show that, and to evidence how we are meeting our objectives, the better.