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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Water Industry

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Monica Lennon

I had a broad question about net zero delivery and whether the panel agrees with Scottish Water’s assessment that it remains on track to deliver its net zero commitments.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Monica Lennon

I do not want to get in the middle of that debate.

Thank you for your written submission. On powers for single-use charges, your written submission emphasises the need to consider impacts on people on lower incomes and vulnerable people. How should single-use charges be introduced, and how should they be balanced with other measures or supports to ensure that they are fair?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Monica Lennon

When you say targeted support, do you mean, for example, grants funded by central or local government, or something else?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Monica Lennon

—and the impact on customers, it is all entirely relevant, with respect.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Monica Lennon

On that final point, I agree that this situation is in no one’s interest. It is not in the public interest or the interest of your very hard-working staff, to whom we are all very thankful.

Therefore, my final question is: given that Scottish Water is a signatory to the Scottish Government’s fair work convention, will you reflect on what has been said here today and elsewhere and demonstrate that there is an effective voice in the workplace for all staff and trade union partners, who play a critical role?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Before Peter Farrer answers, I remind the committee of my entry in the register of members’ interests, in that I am a member of the GMB and Unite.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you, and good morning to the panel. This question is for Alex Plant. I would be interested to hear more about your experience of the water industry in England and to understand what lessons can be learned by drawing on your experience. We have heard that you worked for Anglian Water, which is probably one of the worst polluters in England, on record. I have in front of me examples of the Environment Agency calling for water company bosses to be jailed for serious offences against the environment. Incidents of “ecocide” have been described. Drawing on that experience in that context, what hope can you give us for the situation in Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you for that response. The situation in England is, or has been, pretty bleak, but I am sure that we do not want to gloss over some of the media coverage that we had in Scotland at the weekend. Some really hard-hitting statements were made and Scottish Water has contested some of the analysis, but let us just look at people’s perception and what they are saying.

10:00  

Surfers Against Sewage has accused Scottish Water of “appalling behaviour”. Campaigners and politicians—I will not name them all here—fear that the lack of spill monitoring could mean that dry spilling is a bigger issue than the data indicates. Scottish Water is accused of illegally discharging hundreds of times during dry weather, and soiling beauty spots, much-loved beaches and so on with human waste. We have seen the media coverage and heard the reaction from politicians, communities and key campaigners. As chief executive officer, what is your assessment of that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Monica Lennon

We can come back to the methodology, which is in dispute, but, for clarity, do you dispute the impact on communities and the environment? Are people exaggerating the impact?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Monica Lennon

You mentioned misleading media reporting and headlines. Is Scottish Water planning to take any legal action in that regard?