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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Good morning. My questions are all for David Harley of SEPA. First, I will pick up on enforcement. Recently, criticism by some environmental groups and communities has played out in the media, that there has been a trend of decreasing enforcement action. Will you respond to those concerns and say whether you believe that there is the right balance within SEPA between supporting business and communities, and enforcing compliance with environmental regulations?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

On the original question about striking the right balance between supporting and enforcing compliance by businesses, are you saying that, right now, you think that the balance is good?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

For my final question, I will pivot back slightly to funding and resource. There has been some pretty harsh criticism; I am sure that you will have read it, just as we have. Kim Pratt of Friends of the Earth Scotland said—this was in The Ferret, which did a big investigation—that,

“Three years on, the excuse that Sepa is still recovering from a cyber attack is wearing thin”.

That might be quite hard to hear. I go back to the comments from SEPA’s two former CEOs, who are very concerned about your funding situation. The question has been asked: is SEPA a priority for the Scottish Government? Perhaps I can put that question to you, Mr Harley. Do you feel that SEPA is enough of a priority for the Scottish Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you, Mr Harley. I wish you and your colleagues well.

I will hand back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Yes, I have hinted that I want to ask about fly-tipping. I am keen to hear from all the witnesses, so do not feel that you have to answer all parts of my question.

What impact will the provisions in the bill have on fly-tipping? Would you like to see anything else in the bill in that regard? Outwith the proposals in the bill, I am keen to hear what else is happening to improve the enforcement and prevention of fly-tipping.

I will start with David Harley, but I am also keen to hear from Nick Halfhide and Iain Gulland, should they have anything to add.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

It is reassuring to hear that those provisions are not yet in force. That is quite a long period of time and not everyone who is now on the committee would have been involved in the legislation, so, for the record, what was the first date on which this came to the Government’s attention?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Does that apply to any member of the public in Scotland? Can they get in touch?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I have been listening with interest, but I just wanted to pick up on the theme of single-use items. Single-use nappies, for example, clearly contribute a lot of waste and end up in landfill, and we know that some councils have put in place local small-scale initiatives to improve access to reusable ones. My question is probably best aimed at Iain Gulland. Is there more scope outside the legislation to do more of that locally and to have schemes that can work with nappy libraries, for example, or is there potential for the legislation to put more of a duty on local authorities and other partners to do that in a much more proactive way?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

That is helpful. Nick Halfhide, do you want to add any thoughts about the impact of fly-tipping on the environment and wildlife?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I think that many people would agree that prevention of non-compliance is the really crucial work.

The people who have been quite vocal are, I would say, friends of SEPA, including two former chief executives, who have expressed sympathy. They have made comments, including about SEPA being starved of funding. We have heard that your funding has been slashed by more than a quarter in real terms since 2010. One talked about a

“starving of funds”

and another said that people are

“distracted to cost-saving exercises”

that take officers away from front-line environmental regulation. It sounds like those people are critical friends. Are they saying the kind of things out loud that people in SEPA today would perhaps like to say to committees such as ours?