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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Mr Rennick, does the Scottish Government accept the findings and recommendations of this report?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Chief constable, over to you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 10th meeting in 2026 of the Public Audit Committee. We have received apologies from Joe FitzPatrick.

Agenda item 1 is for members to consider whether to take items 3 to 5 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much for answering our questions on that incident. That is not why you are here, but it is of extreme public interest, so we wanted to cover some of that ground.

If I may, I will take you back to the report on best value in policing and a matter that is perhaps fairly dry but really important. At our meeting on 11 February, Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General for Scotland, said:

“What we are talking about here is public service reform and transformation.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee 11 February 2023; c 19.]

I am old enough to remember that, 10 years ago, a rather costly decision had to be taken to abandon the i6 Accenture digital information technology programme, which was supposed to save £200 million. I bring that up because IT systems and digital transformation have quite a chequered history. Director general, can you bring the committee up to date with where things are and give us some assurance that things are on track with the investments in digital support to help the chief constable and her officers to carry out their work?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Before we get into the detail of the report, we want to speak about some more contemporaneous issues, as you are in front of a parliamentary committee. I should begin by declaring my interest as the convener of the Professional Footballers Association Scotland parliamentary interest group.

On 11 February, we heard evidence from the chief inspector of constabulary. When we were speaking about operational matters and equality and so on, he told us:

“For example, operational equality assessments are being done. If there is a Celtic v Rangers match at the weekend, an equality impact assessment will be done in the lead-up to policing that event. It is about widening that approach in a way that takes the human rights that sit at the core of the organisation’s values and ensures that they are applied in every operational sphere.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 11 February 2026; c 9.]

I suppose that the question is: did that happen in the lead-up to last Sunday’s fixture at Ibrox?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. Before I bring in Graham Simpson, I note that you mentioned capital constraints. At, I think, paragraph 24, the report points out that the move from local authority-controlled policing to a single Scotland-wide force—that was a policy decision; it was not a decision taken by any of our witnesses this morning—has left you in a situation where you have no reserves and no borrowing powers in the way that a local authority has. I think that that colours the fiscal climate that you are working in.

I bring in Graham Simpson to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Absolutely—they are contained centrally in the report that is before us. They have been identified by HM inspectorate and the Auditor General.

Colin Beattie has some questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

That might be a question that, I presume, the Scottish Police Authority would also have some thoughts on.

We have come to the end of our time. I thank you for the evidence that you have given us this morning. This is the second-last meeting in public of this parliamentary session. I will say to Mr Speirs that our final meeting next week is with the accountable officer from the Scottish Public Pensions Agency. I know, Mr Hay, the firefighters, of whom you were once part, along with police officers, the NHS and teachers, are all caught up in the delays in the SPPA system. If you have any questions that you would like to put to the SPPA, Mr Speirs, drop us a note and we will do our best to raise them.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Okay. Mr Brown or Mr Hay—do you want to comment on where we are with the IT investments?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Richard Leonard

Understood. Thank you very much for your time this morning, Alasdair Hay, Chris Brown, Don McGillivray, and director general Neil Rennick. I particularly thank you, chief constable, and deputy chief constable, for the time and the undertakings that you have given us this morning. It has been very helpful. We very much appreciate your willingness to answer some of the questions that were not strictly related to the report that you were asked to come here to talk about. We really do appreciate it.

With that, as the committee agreed earlier, the meeting will now move into private session.

11:39

Meeting continued in private until 12:00.