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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much, and thanks to the deputy convener for that final series of questions.

We have run out of time, so I will draw this morning’s session to a close. Before I do, I take this opportunity to thank all of you—Anne Aitken, Diarmuid Ó Néill, director general Roy Brannen, Michelagh O’Neill, Nicole Paterson, Alex Flucker, Mark Boyd, Gareth Dixon and Will Burnish—for your contributions. You have all had an opportunity to give us evidence this morning, and we really appreciate that.

There was some scepticism as to whether we needed so many witnesses for one session, but I think that it has proved useful in giving us a fuller version of how you see things and the perspectives of your different organisations and parts of government. It has certainly given us as a committee a lot to consider, so thank you all very much.

I now move the meeting into private session.

11:18 Meeting continued in private until 12:04.  

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Joe FitzPatrick has some questions for the witnesses.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

We will return to those themes as we go through the morning.

I have one other question, which I think is largely for you to answer, Mr Brannen. You have told us already that things are well under way and that, although the recommendations and timescales might be quite challenging, the recommendations are already being addressed, and you accept them all.

We took evidence from the Auditor General and other people from Audit Scotland on 17 September—which is not that long ago—as well as from Andrew Burns from the Accounts Commission. As was also captured in the report, Mr Burns said that, while there is now a strategy, which is

“a step in the right direction ... there is not an implementation plan.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 17 September 2025; c 40.]

Why is that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

The recommendation is that you will publish that implementation plan. Are you prepared to go on the record to say that you will do that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

That was perhaps more of a philosophical contribution, Jamie, and I think that it nicely ends that section of questions, if that is okay with you.

Jamie, you are unable to see this—we all can—but Will Burnish wanted to come in on your last question. I will give Mr Burnish the final word in this session.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

If you can share any of that information with the committee, it would be useful. The cost issue was raised in the report, which is why Colin Beattie asked the question about it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

I will bring you in at this point, Ms Paterson. What is SEPA’s perspective on what is identified in the report as “gaps” and sometimes “a lack of clarity” about roles and responsibilities?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Colin Beattie has some questions.

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Good morning and welcome, everyone, to the 27th meeting in 2025 of the Public Audit Committee. We have received apologies from Joe FitzPatrick, so I am pleased that we are joined by Keith Brown.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking items 4, 5, 6 and 7 in private. Are we all agreed to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a section 22 report from the Auditor General for Scotland entitled “The 2023-24 audit of UHI Perth”. I welcome our witnesses. We are joined by Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General for Scotland. Alongside Mr Boyle is Mark MacPherson, who is an audit director at Audit Scotland. I am also very pleased to welcome Nicola Wright, who is an engagement lead for Deloitte and who carried out the audit of the college on behalf of Audit Scotland.

We have a number of questions to put to you on the report, but, before we get to those, I invite the Auditor General to make an opening statement.