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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes—thank you very much. That is helpful. We will bring in the Transport Scotland representatives shortly.

Before I bring in Graham Simpson, I want to ask you about one area in the report. We have had exchanges about this before, cabinet secretary—it is about the peak fares experiment pilot. In case study 1 in the report, the Auditor General and the Accounts Commission specifically make the point that the evaluation conducted by Transport Scotland of the removal of the pilot on peak fares on the railways suggested that no consideration was given to the impact on car use of the removal of that pilot. Why on earth would that be?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

As two committee members still have questions to put to you, we will try to speed things up slightly. I invite Stuart McMillan to put his questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Just for the record, I think that there has been only one Secretary of State for Scotland since the election but two Secretaries of State for Transport.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

I would like to understand the distinction between a body that is an autonomous Crown entity and one that is an independent Crown entity. You mentioned the Retirement Commissioner and the Children and Young People’s Commission. The Retirement Commissioner is classified as an autonomous Crown entity, whereas the Children and Young People’s Commission is classified as an independent Crown entity. What is the difference between those two categorisations?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. You mentioned earlier that some of the bodies have powers of enforcement. Can you give us an example of one of the Crown entities that has enforcement powers?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

What about the Crown entities? Is there any kind of sunset clause for them or any quinquennial review of their roles? Are they subject to reviews from time to time?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. Another Crown entity that has been outlined to us is your Takeovers Panel. Our Takeover Panel has the power to block a merger or acquisition. Is it the same in the New Zealand model?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Good evening, Dr Wilson. I will explore a little more some of the things that you touched on in the earlier part of the session this morning—or this evening for you. I am trying to understand how a new body is designated as either a Crown entity or an officer of Parliament. What criteria are applied to determine how a new body is categorised? Following on from that, what are the differences in the governance arrangements between those two distinct categories?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

We have had an instance in the UK where the Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman made a recommendation around the treatment of women whose retirement age had been changed, having determined that there had been maladministration by a Government department, but it was just a recommendation to Parliament and the Government chose not to implement that recommendation. Does the Ombudsman in New Zealand have powers of enforcement or simply powers to recommend?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. I turn to the review process that you have. One of the existing criteria in the officers of Parliament model is:

“The House should, from time to time, review the appropriateness of each Officer of Parliament’s status as an Officer of Parliament.”

How does that work in practice? Is there a review every five years, or as and when required? What are the rules around that, Dr Wilson?