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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 May 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Of course, the converse of that is that last week we heard from the Ethical Standards Commissioner. Two years ago, that office was the subject of a section 22 report because of major failings in the organisation. Do you think that external audit is extremely valuable in highlighting what is working well and in identifying where things are not working well at all?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

The price of the audit might be a separate point from the point about organisation of the audit.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes, I would expect nothing less.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Sorry—it is not something that you would seek?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

That is fine. To go back to your previous answer, does that situation not get us into events such as the recent controversy about the recommendations over the women against state pension inequality at a UK level? The Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman made a recommendation around maladministration by the Department for Work and Pensions and called for universal compensation payments to be made. Of course, to its shame, the Labour Government has decided not to pay out compensation but simply to issue an apology.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

I will be a bit more granular in my question. You have key performance indicators. What are they? In your written submission, you have mentioned qualitative indicators. What are those? You write about benchmarking against other organisations. Which organisations? Which KPIs do you benchmark against?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

My next question is for clarification. We have been told that you have 80 full-time equivalent staff, which is quite a large number of employees compared to some of the other commissions and commissioners. Presumably, it therefore makes some sense for you to lead on things such as HR functions.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

That is a different question, is it not?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Graham Simpson is trying my patience, but he has persuaded me that he has one short question to put, for which we are looking for one short answer. Graham, over to you.