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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2025”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. I will move straight along and invite Graham Simpson to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2025”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

I am sorry that I am jumping about a bit, but I will take you to paragraph 35, which speaks about the importance of the relationship between a college and the community in which it sits. I cannot help thinking of anywhere except Alloa. Clackmannan College, which was established there in the 1960s, became part of a merged group with a campus in Stirling and the long-standing Falkirk campus. As you alluded to this morning, the Alloa campus is now under threat. In paragraph 35, you describe why the community relationship is so important. Do you want to elaborate on that a bit before I get to another question?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

We are short of time, so, instead of going back around the table, I will move things on.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scotland’s colleges 2025”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. In appendix 3 of the report, you set out a table of what is happening to full-time equivalent posts by college. The biggest percentage cut in full-time equivalent staff is at the City of Glasgow College. Incidentally, the second biggest cut—we will come on to it—is at Forth Valley College.

Do you have any understanding of why, at the same time as a college is sitting on significant cash reserves, it is also reducing its teaching and non-teaching staff by such a huge number—160-odd people walking out the door within 12 months?

12:15  

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

When you publish the Government’s response to the report, do you expect there to be some kind of evaluation of the recommendations, the costs associated with them and so on?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

Last week, Edel Harris said her understanding of “value for money” was that it was to be achieved

“not just through running a very efficient system, but also through the value that something brings to society”.—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 5 November; c 39.]

Is that your perspective as well?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

Fine. That is helpful. As Edel Harris pointed out to us last week, there is quite a high level of interdependency between the two systems in terms of passporting to benefits, the fiscal framework and how that works, and the Barnett formula. Earlier, Kevin Stevens was able to give us chapter and verse on why the figure may be less because the planned reductions in PIP eligibility were paused. I think that he said they were reversed, but they were paused or halted, anyway. These things are quite important in allowing us to understand that there is at least an attempt at ministerial and possibly at official level to have some influence on that review.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

I have two very quick final questions. My first one is for Mr Wallace, and it relates to the answer that you have just given. It is a hallmark of Social Security Scotland that the private sector is not involved in the assessment process, which distinguishes it from the path that the DWP has gone down. Is the private sector involved at all in the surveillance strategy that you just spoke of?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

The report talks in very positive terms about “good early progress” and about the transfer from PIP to adult disability payment being on track. Generally, it is quite positive, but it also says—other members of the committee will ask questions about this—that there is not yet a “detailed strategy” for how the Government will manage the overall budget, given that there is a growing gap between the DWP’s bill and Social Security Scotland’s bill. The report also says that performance information is “limited”. Do you accept those criticisms as well as the praise?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Richard Leonard

We were told that it is expected that the Government will provide a formal response by February, six months on from the report’s publication date. Is it your expectation that that is when we will get the Government’s response, or will we possibly get it before then?