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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you for that helpful introductory statement. One of the chapters in the briefing is headed “Reporting progress and measuring success”, so I want to begin by asking for a report on progress and whether success was measured in terms of the previous national economic strategy, which was launched in 2015. At paragraph 4 of the briefing, you mention that the two principal objectives of that strategy were
“boosting competitiveness and tackling inequality.”
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
We will see whether the new vision is easier to translate into tangible, measurable actions.
This might not be an area for you to comment on, but I would be interested to hear any view that you may have. The previous strategy was formulated and launched in 2015. In 2016 we had a referendum on membership of the European Union, and the UK overall voted for us to leave. As a consequence, the UK left the European Union in January 2020. I am a bit surprised that there has been no revision to the strategy in light of such a significant event.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Other people will come on to some of those areas later, in particular the governance arrangements.
Before I hand over to the deputy convener I will return to the importance of transparency and clarity around the goals and action points. I looked at exhibit 1 in your briefing, headed “Examples of NSET actions”, and I noted the actions under the national strategy for economic transformation that you listed. The first one is:
“Create a national system of pre-scaler hubs that will stimulate the very earliest stages of high growth commercial and social entrepreneurship.”
The next one that is cited is:
“Build strategic partnerships with other key entrepreneurial ecosystems in other countries.”
The third is:
“Design and implement programmes on practical actions business and leaders can take to boost productivity at scale.”
There is an awful lot of jargon there for something that I presume is meant to be a public document that people can read in order to understand the intent of the economic strategy.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you. I invite Jamie Greene to put questions to the Auditor General.
10:15Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the ninth meeting in 2024 of the Public Audit Committee. We have apologies from Graham Simpson.
Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking agenda items 4 and 5 in private. Does the committee agree to do so?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
We have some questions on each of the areas that you have outlined, chief inspector, so if you are agreed, I will turn to the deputy convener to get the ball rolling. You will obviously have an opportunity to give extensive answers to our questions, which I hope will reflect the other things that you might have wanted to say in your opening statement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
What is the rationale behind that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you, Willie. I turn to the deputy convener, Jamie Greene, who has a final question or two.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. That draws to a close our evidence session on Audit Scotland’s briefing paper on the national economic strategy. I thank the Auditor General for his evidence and Cornilius Chikwama for his contribution. I also thank Catherine Young and Kirsty Ridd.
I now move the meeting into private session.
11:07 Meeting continued in private until 11:32.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
As you mentioned earlier, you spent time as the governor of Kilmarnock prison. From that perspective, do you have a view about how things could work better collaboratively between the Prison Service—or the private sector, as was then the case—and central Government departments?