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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Mr Rathjen, there is doubt precisely about whether it was in force. I do not think that there is any doubt that it was on the website. I do not think that there is any doubt that a written document exists. However, there is a huge question mark over whether the standards of governance, the standards of behaviour and the systems that were in place match up to the intention that is set out in the governance document.

I will bring in other members of the committee but, before I do, I want to check something off with you. The introduction to the governance framework, which was reviewed in April 2022, says that the power of the Scottish ministers to direct the Water Industry Commission for Scotland

“is confined to matters relating to the WICS’ financial management and administration.”

Has a minister been involved in what has happened here?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

But she was not involved, for example, in signing off the authorisation that Mr Rathjen gave to the £77,000 Harvard Business School course.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. I invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Maybe the director general could answer that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

I presume that those programmes do not cost £77,000.

The final question that I have before I invite Willie Coffey to put some questions to you is about the chief operating officer. She benefited from £77,000 of public expenditure to attend the Harvard business school. I do not know how long the course lasted, but is there any condition on that expenditure that means that the chief operating officer will stay with the organisation for a certain period of time, or could she leave tomorrow?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Do you mean six months’ pay?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Wow.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

I would rather the figure was accurate, so I am happy for that to be the case.

I thank the witnesses for their time. I will suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:33 Meeting suspended.  

10:36 On resuming—