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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 January 2026
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Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Do you know how far back that would go?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Maybe we need to ask that question of other people.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

I understand that. On a separate point—I think—one thing that came out of the evidence that we took last year was that the Scottish Funding Council appears to hold a risk register, and the committee believed on the basis of a source of ours that five or six colleges could be coded black—that is, as having significant cash-flow problems. Do you have any update on that picture?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

On your last point, does the system have a behavioural impact? Presumably, the board of Glasgow Kelvin College has made a decision to dispose of that asset in the west end of Glasgow, which is a high-value location. However, if it does not necessarily benefit at all from the proceeds of that sale, where is the incentive for it to consider such measures? Obviously, that situation could be replicated for other college boards across the country.

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Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

We have some final questions, which the deputy convener will put to you.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

I was going to draw this morning’s evidence session to a close, but I see that Tricia Meldrum wants to come back in.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Certainly.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Yes, I think that you said that it was Glasgow Clyde College, but it is City of Glasgow College. That is fine—I appreciate your correcting the record.

I thank Shelagh Stewart, Tricia Meldrum, Mark MacPherson and the Auditor General for their time and their evidence this morning. I just want to conclude by saying how valuable we find this annual briefing, because it gives us a snapshot of the state of Scotland’s colleges in a short, sharp and informative format. Speaking on behalf of the committee, I say that we welcome this as an annual event, because it shows how things are and where things have or have not moved on. We as a committee find it a valuable resource in looking at the state and health of Scotland’s colleges.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much indeed.

I will begin by asking a question for information. I want to get an understanding of why the annual audit reports of a number of colleges—University of the Highlands and Islands colleges and Forth Valley College, I think—are not included in the report. Are there reasons for that?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Richard Leonard

No—thank you for correcting the record.