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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Richard Leonard

You have said a couple of times that this is the point that we have now reached. I remind you of what that point looks like. The target was that 1 million out of the 2.5 million homes in Scotland would be converted by 2030, but, as I read the Audit Scotland report, the figure is not 1 million out of 2.5 million; it is 26,000 out of 2.5 million, which is about 1 per cent.

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Richard Leonard

I reflect again that 6,000 heat pumps out of 2.5 million households is way less than 1 per cent, isn’t it?

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Richard Leonard

The deputy convener, Jamie Greene, has some questions.

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Richard Leonard

We have a final suite of questions, which will be asked by Graham Simpson.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. You will see—and I will direct this question to Mr Jones, too—that this is fomenting a view, certainly among PCS members, that GEOAmey should not be part of the equation at all.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Richard Leonard

A little.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. I will ask you one quick question, to which I hope to get a quick answer before I bring in Willie Coffey.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Richard Leonard

What is the current position?

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 10th meeting in 2024 of the Public Audit Committee. The first agenda item for the committee to consider is whether to take items 4 to 7 in private. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

Richard Leonard

The next item on our agenda is consideration of “The 2022/23 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”. We have a number of witnesses from the Scottish Government and from the Water Industry Commission with us this morning. You are very welcome.

Our witnesses from the Scottish Government are Roy Brannen, who is the director general of net zero; Kersti Berge, who is the director of energy and climate change; and Jon Rathjen, who is the deputy director for water policy and for the directorate for energy and climate change operations.

We are joined from WICS by Professor Donald MacRae, who is the chair of the board; Robin McGill, who is a member of the board and the chair of the commission’s audit and risk committee; and David Satti, who is down in our papers as the director of strategy and governance, but I know that, as of yesterday, he was appointed as the interim accountable officer, so we will be asking him questions in that capacity, too.

We have quite a number of questions that we want to put but, before we get to those, I invite Roy Brannen and then Mr MacRae to make a short opening statement each. Over to you, director general.