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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
Hang on. This was in January 2023.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed, director general.
Before we get into the nuts and bolts of the section 22 report, there is a matter in the public domain this week that has attracted quite a bit of attention in Parliament, about Scottish Water senior management bonus payments. I think that it was highlighted that three people were in receipt of £330,000 last year in bonus payments. That constituted a 35.9 per cent rise in one year.
The Scottish public finance manual charges you, Mr Brannen, with
“regularity, propriety and value for money”.
WICS’s terms of reference say that your job is
“to promote the interests of Scottish Water customers to ensure long-term value and excellent levels of service”.
How do you reconcile the revelations about bonus payments with those terms of reference? I will start with you, Mr Brannen.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
You used the expression “ministers”—plural—a couple of times, director general. Who signed off that framework for bonuses to be paid?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
Okay. Mr Simpson wants to come in.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
I am going to move things on. The deputy convener has some questions in that vein, so I hand over to Jamie Greene to put questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
Kersti Berge wants to come in.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you—that was succinct.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
I am sorry—“heroic leadership”?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
That is helpful and interesting. What you are saying is that that was not some unique deal struck by the former CEO and the then Government or the board or whatever. It would have been quite common across the Scottish public sector up to the year 2007, approximately.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Richard Leonard
In 2005, there would have been other people who would have signed similar contracts to the one that Mr Sutherland signed up to, with similar terms, notice period and so on. That is helpful. If you could furnish us with more details on that, that would be extremely useful to us.
I invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to you.