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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

Many animal welfare agencies support the banning of snares for animal welfare reasons, regardless of who sets them. The British Veterinary Association is one such body, and it is very much respected on animal health and welfare issues. I believe that it supplied evidence to the committee, and it certainly supplied evidence for the consultation. Studies have been carried out at United Kingdom level, too. For example, in 2010, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs conducted a large study that has informed much of our historical thinking about non-target species.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

Currently, snares are used in Scotland for the target species of foxes—obviously, they are a predator—and rabbits and brown hares, which are often viewed as pests. Under the regulations from 1994, it is illegal

“to deliberately or recklessly capture, injure or kill a wild animal of a ... protected species such as a wild cat”

or, obviously, a badger, unless a licence has been granted by NatureScot.

However, the use of snaring is actually quite low because shooting is the main means used by people who want, for example, to keep down the number of foxes on their land because they are a predator. The vast majority of control measures involve shooting, which is seen as a humane way of dealing with animals that are considered to be pests or predators that can impact on the livelihood of farmers, for example.

Your second question, Dr Allan, was about the sale of snares.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

You are asking me for NatureScot’s opinion, but I am not from NatureScot.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

I can give you an undertaking: if you let me know when the committee is deliberating on its stage 1 report, I will get that decision to you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

You have my assurance that I will make a decision on whether there will be a complete ban on snares or a licensing scheme. You will have that information ahead of making your deliberations for your stage 1 report.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

Will you take evidence from NatureScot? We have been working closely with NatureScot and other agencies, which is one reason why we are lodging this amendment. NatureScot has not given any opinion to suggest that snaring should be kept for biodiversity or conservation reasons.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

That is a question for NatureScot.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

Hugh Dignon has just said that fewer than 2,000—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

Yes—that is the data that we have. If there is any data beyond or below that at a granular level, I will provide it to the committee. However, I go back to what we have just been saying: there is no way of knowing these things, because there is no recording mechanism and it is not legally incumbent on anybody to report what animal was caught in a snare, when it happened and what was done with it.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Gillian Martin

It has not put that to me as being an issue.